S1E11: What Happened to Malaysia Flight 370? with Tom Cruise Impersonator Evan Ferrante

Jennifer Field: [00:00:05] Hey, everyone, and welcome to episode number 11, the unofficial official story. I'm Jennifer. I'm the fearless investigator, and from this point on will be the host.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:00:16] I'm Koji, the so-called chief of the show, and definitely should not be the host.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:00:21] And I'm Dwayne the, I guess, the guy writing jokes for the class clown. The man behind the man.

Jennifer Field: [00:00:27] So this is a podcast where we tell you the official story. We're going to take a look at the paranormal conspiracies, unexplained phenomena, crypts and even true crime.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:00:39] In this episode, we're asking the question What happened to Malaysia Flight 370?

Dwayne Perkins: [00:00:43] By the end, we'll tell you what really maybe happened.

Jennifer Field: [00:00:48] Maybe but first we brought on the guest, we wanted to find someone with flying experience. We thought of Tom Cruise immediately, of course, because of this role in classic movie Top Gun. I have to admit it's so weird, but I've never seen it.

Evan Ferantte: [00:01:09] Don't don't admit that publicly.

Jennifer Field: [00:01:12] I know all about it. Anyway, however, since we couldn't get Tom Cruise, we got someone even better. We brought on my friend Evan Ferrante.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:01:21] Over the last two decades, Evan Ferrante has traveled the globe impersonating Tom Cruise, London, Paris, New Zealand, Australia and Canada. He has appeared in a host of commercials, viral videos, films and corporate events as the iconic movie star, most recently playing a guest role on WB reboot of Animaniacs. I didn't know that. That's awesome. I love that show. His deepfake videos for Collider TV and Corridor Digital have racked up nearly five million views across all social platforms. Evan has worked with Disney, TechCrunch, Toyota, Astellas, Abbott Labs, Direct TV, Warner Brothers, Channel four TV and many other companies who have sought to harness the unparalleled energy of cruise. Evan has appeared on The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon, where he performed his famous courtroom drama scene from a few good men. Evan received as big as praise of all on extra from Tom Cruise himself, who said his voice is uncanny while laughing maniacally doesn't get much better than that.

Evan Ferantte: [00:02:09] Yeah, you know, I I was wondering why you brought me on, but now it all makes sense. You know, the flight significant flight experience that I have living vicariously through my alter ego Tom Cruise.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:02:19] How many planes have you piloted?

Evan Ferantte: [00:02:20] I've piloted exactly zero.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:02:23] How did you realize that you look and could act like Tom Cruise? I mean, how does that come about?

Evan Ferantte: [00:02:29] I'd start off in college. Nineteen ninety seven. Jerry Maguire just came out like a year prior. I was just trying to meet people in college. I was a freshman. My other friends, a director and a or soon to be director, he directs. In Hollywood these days, but he was a filmmaker in film school. He does a Jean-Claude Van Damme impression. That's pretty damn good, and I didn't even mean to say damn again. But he does a damn good Van Damme, and he said to me, You kind of have Cruise's face and his mannerisms or his general look and his height heights a big part of it and his smile and his laugh and his energy, his charisma, all that stuff. And he said, throw on these glasses and then he said, Let's do a little tag team like an Abbott and Costello routine because it was hard to meet mainly women that in college in the freshman year. So let's knock on dorm rooms and try to meet women that way. Doing a routine?

Jennifer Field: [00:03:20] Oh my god.

Evan Ferantte: [00:03:22] It wasn't to get to become famous, it wasn't to be an influence, or there wasn't even that terminology back then. It was simply to meet women like playing the guitar, playing music. It's just another tactic.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:03:32] Yeah, brushing your teeth, you know the whole thing

Evan Ferantte: [00:03:36] Or the doors would open. And sometimes they let us in. And like 60, 60, 70 percent of the time we got lucky,

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:03:43] They got lucky. Like, not lucky.

Evan Ferantte: [00:03:46] So I'm just going to say we got lucky. They didn't slam the door in our faces is my point and it was just like a way to meet people that day. It wasn't just girls, it was guys too. And for a long while, I was known as like the cruise guy. No one even knew my name in college. And then years later, when funny or die on YouTube came about, that's when I put out a video just for the hell of it, because I still like was tinkering around with the impression just for fun again, shits and giggles. And I put it out there on YouTube and funny or die did like a series on funny or die? They went viral or whatever viral was back then. And then I started to work pretty semi consistently and my my name started to float around Hollywood and I was flown out from New York. And that's kind of how I started realizing there's like a business here or there. I can make some money doing this, which is crazy to me.

Jennifer Field: [00:04:34] Wow.

Evan Ferantte: [00:04:35] I never imagined it would amount to anything, you know, it was just a fluke.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:04:38] That's such a cool story, man. And as you said it, it made me think I don't know if you've ever thought about this in some alternate universe. Tom Cruise is an Evan Ferrante impersonator. You know what I mean?

Jennifer Field: [00:04:52] Have you ever tried to walk into the celebrity center on Franklin dressed as Tom Cruise? And they mistake you for Tom Cruise and say, Hey, come on in. Let's pretend like this special room.

Evan Ferantte: [00:05:02] Pun intended, that's risky business that could get me killed.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:05:06] So we're talking about planes on this episode. Tell us about. Have you ever had a bad experience on a plane or anything at the airport?

Evan Ferantte: [00:05:13] I don't want to talk about it because I hate jinxing it. I'm not a fan of flying especially long distances, especially small planes. Obviously, the turbulence thing I just have a real problem with. I'm always like, You know what? Come to Jesus moment like this? Is it? What am I last like? Final moment is going to be What am I going to do? I always have that thought process, like, what am I going to do with these 30 seconds before it's over? And it's it gets heavy sometimes. One time I took an edible with two other girls. We were on our way to Vegas, so it's a forty five minute flight and we all had a very serious edible experience. We all collectively shared the same trauma of this edible and freaked out because there was some turbulence. We literally thought this was it. It's really much worse when you're on an edible.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:06:01] If a commercial airliner goes down on a forty five minute flight, then that's going to make people lose a lot of hope and faith in the whole process. You know what I mean?

Evan Ferantte: [00:06:10] Well, you always look around the plane. You're like, Oh, there's there's cute little babies there. There's that plane can't go down, but like, Look, it's the more you fly, the higher chances something can happen, the more you drive.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:06:21] Don't say that. Don't say that

Evan Ferantte: [00:06:25] Probability. That's why JFK Jr., you know, all these people who have gotten in terrible accidents and all of these tragedies. I think it's just chalk it up to the fact that they fly so often so frequently.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:06:35] Yeah, I was going to say to Dwayne, to your point, most flights crash in the beginning or end of a flight. Very rarely in the middle,

Evan Ferantte: [00:06:42] Feel great after takeoff and great when we touch the ground. But right in the middle, I'm more relaxed.

Jennifer Field: [00:06:50] Ok, well, what do you guys think? Should we get into it?

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:06:53] Yeah, let's do it.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:06:53] Let's do it.

Jennifer Field: [00:06:54] So one of the things we all watch to give us some background on the subject was a documentary on BBC called Where is Flight MH 370? We're going to put a link in our show notes, and here are some facts.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:07:06] Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 took off from Kuala Lumpur on March 8th, 2014 at point two a.m.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:07:13] By the way, that's a really Late flight.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:07:14] Yeah, I didn't realize that either. It's like basically a red eye. Yeah, they were headed toward Beijing, China. There were two hundred twenty seven passengers and 10 crew members. Most of the passengers were Chinese, but they were passengers from four continents on the plane. The captain was a veteran pilot, Zaharie Ahmad Shah. The first officer was for Farooq Hamid, and he was flying the plane. This was Farooq's last training flight.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:07:42] This is one of the things that really interested me when I was doing research on this was that I didn't realize that the captain doesn't always fly the plane.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:07:47] Right, right. Well, I think, yeah, I think it's such a long flight. I don't know if that's actually that long of a flight, but yeah, sometimes they they switch Off,

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:07:54] No, in this situation, the captain didn't fly at all. Ok, OK. It was the first officer in the entire time, and I thought that was really interesting. I never for some reason, I always assumed that the captain flew the plane because he's the Captain. 

Dwayne Perkins: [00:08:05] Makes sense. It's kind of like a general doesn't drive his his tank, you know? I don't know.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:08:11] That was a terrible analogy.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:08:14] And 1:01 am Mh370 reached a cruising altitude of 35000 feet. This was when the first weird thing on this flight happened. The captain radioed that they reached their altitude, but most planes only radio in when they're leaving an altitude.

Jennifer Field: [00:08:29] At 1:19 a.m., they left Malaysia airspace and entered Vietnamese airspace. The Kuala Lumpur Center radioed the following Malaysian three seven zero contact Ho Chi Minh one to zero decimal nine. Good night, the captain responded. Good night, Malaysian three seven zero. So what's unusual about the captain's response is that he didn't repeat the decimal, which from what we read is the custom. So anyway, this was the last time anyone heard from anyone from Malaysian Airlines 370.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:09:00] I just want to say that might be just a weird little thing that people are reading too much into. But as a stand up comic, I will say, like when you do a joke a thousand times, it gets sort of burned in your head, right? And then you do it the same way. And when you don't do it the same way, it's by choice. But there's another version where any kind of stress can cause you to say things differently.

Jennifer Field: [00:09:22] Oh. 

Dwayne Perkins: [00:09:23] Yeah, like, I have a joke. I say my cousin spent seven years in jail. That's seven years, seven years, seven years.

Evan Ferantte: [00:09:28] Mm hmm.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:09:29] I'm listening to one of my old sets, and it was like the room was a little where there was some weird guys and they were kind of drunk and rowdy. And I said my cousin spent six years in jail and I listened back and I'm like, Why the hell did I say six years? Like, it's kind of a made up thing. So the number doesn't matter. But that stress of the moment caused me to alter it. Just a just a little bit, you know What I mean?

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:09:51] I think flights are very procedural, like you have to do certain things, you have to say it in a certain way. And there's like a common I mean, everyone speaks English now,

Dwayne Perkins: [00:10:00] And that's what I mean. So if he. Broke with procedure just a little bit. It could indicate some kind of a stress or something going on, especially because as a comic, I have leeway to change the number. But like you're saying, koji, they're not supposed to change at All, you know?

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:10:14] Mh 370 crossed into Vietnamese airspace. Their transponder was turned off or shut off on its own. The Vietnamese air control tried to get a hold of the plane, but was unable to. And this type of situation, the protocol is that the Vietnamese were supposed to contact Kuala Lumpur, but it took an hour to do so. That's why it took more than four hours six twenty two a.m. before an emergency response was initiated.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:10:35] The initial search was in the South China Sea between Malaysia and Vietnam, according to the Atlantic article, within a matter of days. Primary radar records salvaged from air traffic control computers and partially corroborated by Malaysian Air Force data revealed that as soon as MH 370 disappeared from the secondary radar, it turned sharply to the southwest, flew back to the Malay Peninsula and banks around the island of Penang. From there, it flew northwest up the Strait of Malacca and out across the Andaman Sea where it faded beyond radar range into obscurity. What makes this case interesting is that commercial airliners of this size do not disappear in this day and age.

Jennifer Field: [00:11:15] Over the course of the last seven years, some facts have come to light. First, that MH 370 made some contact with a geostationary Indian Ocean satellite seven times to be exact, indicating that there was not some sudden catastrophic incident. And maybe, more importantly, that MH 370 was in the air for many hours after their last contact. In July 2015, some debris was found in the Indian Ocean on the small island of reunion. Other debris has been found in Mozambique and East Africa,

Evan Ferantte: [00:11:50] Right? The wing fragments right.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:11:52] Here are some of the theories about what happened and by the way, a ton. So we have a ton of theories here, but we can never list all of them because it take forever. But here the first two an oxygen deficiency incapacitated the passengers and crew. Basically, everyone passed out because of lack of oxygen, and the plane eventually crashed into the ocean. Another version of this particular theory is that someone a.k.a. a terrorist intentionally caused the oxygen deficiency, and yet another is that the captain was the one who was responsible. And here's another one featuring the captain. This is probably the most popular one that I always read. This was a murder suicide by the pilot who deliberately crashed the plane. A similar one is that the captain ditched the aircraft with a parachute and met his lover on a boat, which is, by the way, my favorite one. And a third and our favorite was the captain wanted to create the world's greatest mystery. That was his goal. He accomplished it. Congratulations.

Evan Ferantte: [00:12:40] Wow,

Dwayne Perkins: [00:12:41] Absolutely.

Evan Ferantte: [00:12:42] The architect. 

Dwayne Perkins: [00:12:44] Some other theories is there was an electrical fire on board and incapacitated the crew passengers. Another one is that the plane was taken over remotely by hijackers, so it was like the world's first big drone, I guess. The US military shot down the plane. I hadn't heard that one before

Jennifer Field: [00:13:00] North Korea took the plane. I guess. Likely culprit, right? Easy to blame. Mysterious country. The plane landed somewhere in Central Asia. One version of this story is that Vladimir Putin stole it and took it to Kazakhstan. Also, there is the theory of the Asian Bermuda Triangle having got to the plane. I mean, the idea is that this is the exact opposite side of the real Bermuda Triangle.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:13:25] I don't know if that's true, but that's what people wrote. So here's some a few others. This is part of an elaborate insurance scam, which seems really silly, by the way. This is my favorite aliens abducted the plane and the people. I love that I'm sure it was the Grays third. One is Iran, who plan to take over the plane and crash into the building, ala 9/11.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:13:44] This theory that the passengers are still alive. This is interesting. 20 employees of the Texas based Freescale Semiconductor were on the flight. The theory is that they were allegedly involved in spying against China through embedded processing chips. The Chinese government again theory somehow took over the plane and interrogated them to find out what they knew and get the technology for themselves. Not sure why you'd have to kill everyone else to do that, and this is a fun one. Another one is apparently MH 370 was the 400 4th seven seven seven Boeing produced and four O four is significant because of what a four O four http error means. Basically, it's the internet when something can't be found. This is the Reddit post that started it all. It goes http four O four. Error means not found, which in this case is oddly appropriate for the status of the aircraft or just a coincidence. Coincidence? I think not.

Evan Ferantte: [00:14:36] And if I was an investigator, I would first look at the flight roster. I mean, obviously the captain and the pilot and all that, that's that's maybe the first person I would interview if they were still alive or find out the black box, of course, but the black box? Let me ask you this. It has to be found physically. No way that it doesn't upload to a cloud.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:14:56] You have to find it. And there's a certain amount of time that you have to find it before you can't find anymore because it sends out like a beacon and. You should be able to find it some, but that's how usually they could help find planes.

Jennifer Field: [00:15:05] But if they find it, will it still be working if they happen to find it?

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:15:08] I'm pretty sure it would, but I don't know for sure

Evan Ferantte: [00:15:11] That your initial theory, the initial running theory, is that the oxygen and all that. Is that a common occurrence? I've never heard of that happening on a plane.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:15:19] Yeah, I mean, that's why they put the mask thing.

Evan Ferantte: [00:15:21] Yeah, but that's during a crash.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:15:23] No, no, that's that's for anytime, anytime. There's an oxygen issue on the on the airplane.

Evan Ferantte: [00:15:27] I've just never heard of an oxygen issue without it being related to a crash.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:15:32] No, no, it could be. It could happen any time.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:15:33] It's cabin depressurization. But the weird thing is that, you know, when they say, put your mask on before you help others. Yeah, I feel like they they should lean into that a little more because they say it. We know it, but they should be like, Yo, like, seriously, put your mask on first. Yeah, because you only you only get a few seconds, like within 30 seconds, everyone will pass out. Yeah, if if you lose the oxygen at that height.

Jennifer Field: [00:15:57] Another theory is the plane is still in Vietnam, waiting to be used as a weapon. There was a miniature hydrogen bomb on the aircraft that exploded and created a mini black hole. That's another theory. All right. When we come back, we're going to put our minds together and figure out what really maybe happened. People always ask us how they can start a podcast, and one of the first things we tell people is that they should host their show on BuzzSprout like we do.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:16:25] Whether you're looking for a new marketing channel, have a message you want to share with the world, or just think it would be fun to have your own talk show. Podcasting is an easy, inexpensive and fun way to expand your reach online.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:16:37] BuzzSprout is hands down the easiest and best way to launch, promote and track your podcast. Your show can be online and listed in all the major podcasts directories within minutes of finishing your recording.

Jennifer Field: [00:16:47] Following the link in the show notes, Let's buzzsprout know that we sent you. You'll get a twenty dollars Amazon gift card if you sign up for a paid plan, and most importantly, you'll be helping support our show. Now that we've discussed the facts, let's workshop our ideas.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:17:04] Ok? I forgot to mention before, too, I've flown from Malaysia to China, or maybe from China to Malaysia, but I've done that that route. Some version of it and I've flown Malaysian Airlines. So it's really kind of scary and the thought that there's no closure because these people aren't found. So so I want to say that I think that the air being depressurized is really what happened. I don't know why the plane turned.

Evan Ferantte: [00:17:25] That's frightening that that just can happen.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:17:27] Super scary. But I like that. Like, I'm going to say another one, another theory. But what I like about that theory is that hopefully that means they did suffer. Like they're all just sort of like, it's like kind of like drank the Kool-Aid,

Evan Ferantte: [00:17:39] Dying in their sleep, essentially.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:17:41] Right, right, right. If I was a family member, that would be a better way for me to picture it if I had to picture it at all. But if we wanted to go another route and this is something one of our favorite people in this podcast, so I'm thinking short of that happening. The pilot parachuted out and D.B. Cooper was waiting for him, and D.B. Cooper is a guy who hijacked a plane and disappeared. And so D.B. Cooper and D.B. Cooper was his lover.

Jennifer Field: [00:18:08] Oh, okay,

Evan Ferantte: [00:18:10] Okay.

Jennifer Field: [00:18:11] So he gave them the idea and he told them how to do it and stuff. Ok. Ok.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:18:15] And they're A-holes for killing other people, obviously.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:18:17] But in this relationship, it's the only person who has ever gotten away with a skyjacking and like the last flight that totally disappeared and that we found commercial airline. That's amazing. They're like a power couple,

Dwayne Perkins: [00:18:27] And the pilot was like he really had beef with his employers. So he wanted to bruise them and in his fit of rage, he didn't consider the innocent people. But DB said, Listen, I went out in a blaze of glory. You can go out in a blaze glorly like, because no, no crime is rational, right? Murder isn't rational. So so I think short of what really happened. He hijacked out. He parachuted out, landed in the ocean, Indian Ocean. They figured it out. D.b. Cooper was waiting for him, and now they live under an alias in Argentina.

Jennifer Field: [00:18:56] I love it. That's fantastic.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:18:58] Mine is. Have you guys ever heard of Tulpa. 

Evan Ferantte: [00:19:02] Tulpa? No.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:19:03] Tulpa is a Buddhist term, but it's used a lot in paranormal. I've been wanting to talk about this.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:19:06] It sounds like fake meat, but I'm sorry. Go ahead.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:19:09] It's where people put a lot of energy and faith and thought into something, and the more thought, energy and faith you put into something, it becomes real. So if enough people put energy in and this is what theory is about Bigfoot or aliens or ghosts or anything like that, I feel like this is a tulpa. And let me give you an example of a tulpa. There's something called the Philip Experiment in the seventies, where these paranormal psychics ghost hunter people came together and basically created their own little ghost called Phillip. And every day they just did seances and they talked to the ghosts. They came up with a back story and they eventually they were allegedly haunted by them. Ok, so knowing those two things, I think Flight MH 370 was a tulpa. It never existed before. But. 

Jennifer Field: [00:19:47] Oh,

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:19:48] It exists now because we've put so much energy into this plane and into this mystery.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:19:54] But who started it then if it never existed?

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:19:56] Well, we all did it. 

Evan Ferantte: [00:19:58] From a collective hive mind of energy. What do you mean?

Jennifer Field: [00:20:00] Right?

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:20:00] It was probably on some Reddit post and somebody read and they're like, Yeah, yeah, I remember Flight MH 370. No one ever found it and somebody said, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then people convinced themselves. But their families and I feel terrible for saying that. I'm not a Sandy Hook denier.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:20:15] Right, right.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:20:15] It's one of those things where everybody was just like, Yeah, and then, yeah, whatever happened to that flight and then it just became a thing. And now we all seem to remember the Malaysian government. The Australian government spent billions of dollars trying to find this plane or hundreds of millions of dollars trying to find this plane.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:20:29] What's interesting about that is that a similar phenomenon that really did happen is in the 80s, people thought Nelson Mandela died.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:20:35] The Mandela effect?

Dwayne Perkins: [00:20:36] I don't know. It became like an agreed upon thing that he had died when he hadn't died. So there's something to that. There's something to that. I like that theory because it means that it didn't happen.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:20:46] Exactly.

Jennifer Field: [00:20:47] Wait I have to ask. So the Phillipo experiment is they did it because they were trying to prove that that is possible, that if you believe in something enough hive mind style that it can become,

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:20:57] You can manifest it. I mean, there are a lot of cultures that do it. The Jewish culture has something, the golems, right? There's a lot of different cultures that you put in enough energy to something that it could come to live

Dwayne Perkins: [00:21:07] What they did is they got into the bathroom and they said, Candyman, I'm just playing.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:21:12] The perfect example of a tulpa is Slenderman. Like it was nineteen ninety nine when Slenderman started, it was a picture on the internet.

Evan Ferantte: [00:21:19] That's freightening.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:21:19] And all of a sudden now people see him right and they claim that he's doing whatever, you know, not just those crazy girls that tried to kill their best friend or whatever, but other people will literally say they see him. And that's just because we write stories. We talk about him. 

Evan Ferantte: [00:21:31] Telephone game. It just spirals and like the lore grows.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:21:34] I mean, this is why nobody finds Bigfoot, right? Like, we all think about Bigfoot and we people claim to see Bigfoot. And I mean people, not crazy people to there are normal people who see Bigfoot, and how can they see Bigfoot? And yet we never find any evidence of them.

Jennifer Field: [00:21:46] I'm getting goosebumps. I love that, by the way. So can I just imagine that I'm going to have like a million dollars in my bank account and at one point it will happen.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:21:55] Everybody else has to do it, too.

Evan Ferantte: [00:21:56] Oh yeah. You ever see the secret? That's the basis for it. Think, and grow rich.

Jennifer Field: [00:22:02] First of all, I just have to say all the theories that are already out there are so frickin cool. I actually had a hard time coming up with one because they all sort of went down these paths that made kind of sense, like you said, Koji. It's like there's actually a lot of theories out there. And like Dwyane was saying, I do believe airplane cabin depressurized and oxygen was, you know, taken out or whatever. So everyone was knocked out unconscious and it was a suicide mission for the pilot. The first captain guy, the one that may be parachuted down to meet D.B. Cooper. So that's what I think actually happened. But we're not here for that, right? This is the unofficial official story. So I think that that there is a giant squid like in the movie, the host. If you guys have seen that, the reason why there's all this cover up stuff and like Malaysian government, they are withholding information. And like, there was a couple of things in our articles like, Yeah, this British intelligence officer said, You don't want to go there, don't dig deeper. And so maybe like other countries were involved too, that were all behind this creation of a war weapon, which would be the the giant squid. So there's a couple of countries, including Malaysia, that are trying to create this giant squid.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:23:14] Is the giant squid real or the robot?

Jennifer Field: [00:23:16] Yeah. So it's real and it's they're living in the Indian Ocean.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:23:19] Wow.

Jennifer Field: [00:23:19] And and yeah, we've got some pieces, you know, because like there was like, you know, I had to go its arms had to go up and bring it down. But that's why we can't find it, because it ate it.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:23:30] Wow. Yeah. The squid could also be magnetic, and it can have certain powers. I really I really like this idea.

Evan Ferantte: [00:23:36] Squid spit out the wing, the wing fragments that are seen in those different locations. 

Dwayne Perkins: [00:23:41] Too salty.

Jennifer Field: [00:23:42] Yeah, it burped.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:23:43] Get it. 

Evan Ferantte: [00:23:44] Right. It's just wanted the thighs, not the wing shit. Yeah.

Jennifer Field: [00:23:52] So I think it fits because all, yeah, nobody can really figure out what happened and like, that's why there's this kind of hush hush. And the Malaysian government didn't want to reveal everything because it's trying to cover it up. And I feel like maybe Australia is not involved in the big squid experiment because they are very involved in. They spend a lot of money on the search, so I don't think they're involved.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:24:12] Or maybe they were looking for the squid.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:24:14] Yeah, sounds like these countries were playing squid games.

Evan Ferantte: [00:24:18] Mm hmm. Yeah,

Dwayne Perkins: [00:24:19] That's terrible. All right, Evan, what's your theory?

Evan Ferantte: [00:24:24] You know, I heard several years ago, David Blaine was working on a new magic trick, and maybe I don't know. But then I was thinking, this simulation thing sounds right on the money. Like, That sounds right to me. Started talking about that, the hadron collider and the simulation and multiverse and all this. And it could be a flight simulator, dare I say it, a flight simulation. You know, we're all part of this and we don't even know what we're doing. We're playing this game all the time. We just don't know. We're playing it. There's no controllers. There's no headsets. We're just in it. And shit happens every day that we just unexplainable phenomena. And so I believe I believe it's a higher power, some A.I. and we're just not meant to understand everything.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:25:08] It's like a glitch in the game kind of thing.

Evan Ferantte: [00:25:10] A glitch in The Matrix. I was joking when I said Flight Simulator that was supposed to be, you're supposed to laugh harder about that. But I came up with that like 10 minutes ago. I thought it was fucking brilliant.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:25:20] Oh, no it's great. Yeah, yeah.

Evan Ferantte: [00:25:22] Whenever there's something that we just really struggling to understand, we're like ants on a log. We're just in an ant farm right now and we we know so little about anything. And when it comes to something like this, which all these brightest minds are looking and spending hundreds of millions of dollars to find this plane come up with nothing. You cover up. There could be an explanation, but it also could be just out of our realm of understanding.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:25:46] Are you saying like The Matrix? We are in a simulation?

Evan Ferantte: [00:25:49] Yeah, not just that, but we're we're such simple minds when it comes to the advanced intelligence that concocts, the architect. The architect creates everything. I'm not saying God, I'm I'm naming giving it a name. I'm just saying some higher power that keeps us in our place.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:26:05] And the other thing about the simulation that I think is interesting is that if you look at our world, our our universe, it's governed by the Fibonacci number that everything comes down to these certain numbers.

Evan Ferantte: [00:26:15] Sure.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:26:16] And if you're going to build a program right, any program come down to certain numbers. It's all formulas.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:26:21] I love that too. I love that Fibonacci numbers give you the spiral.

Evan Ferantte: [00:26:24] The golden rule.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:26:25] The golden rule. Yeah, and that's the thing. It's it speaks to intelligent design. I don't think intelligent design and evolution are mutually exclusive. You know, they can both exist together a few things. One is if you have a like blow a ladybug or you take a like you're talking about ants, you have like you flick an ant. And it's to that end, you've it's warped to a whole different place, you know? I mean, you're like, Oh, if if you if you're traveling in a like a roach from a hotel crawls in your bag and then you get home, you're like, Gosh, what the hell is this roaching doing? And you like, just flick it off the balcony or something that Roach is like, that Roach from Toledo wakes up in California and it's like

Evan Ferantte: [00:27:04] Blowing mind blowing.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:27:05] Yeah. So if we are at whatever level we're at, whoever is above us can do that same thing to us. They can just flick us away.

Evan Ferantte: [00:27:13] Has anyone here read the classic novel? It's a short book, but it's a very famous book called Flatland.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:27:19] I haven't it.

Evan Ferantte: [00:27:20] Basically, it's about one dimensional and two dimensional shapes that live in like kind of a noble king queen kind of world and surfs. And there's like there's like a hierarchy right there. But the inhabitants of this are squares and circles and lines and points. So there's a one dimensional and a two dimensional land, and it's all about this two dimensional world. And like the circles are like the because they're so perfect or like at the top of the hierarchy. But it's all about this square, I believe, who has an experience. It's kind of a transcendental experience where they encounter a three dimensional being, but they don't, of course, have any real way of understanding it other than they have. They have the sense. It's like a sixth sense and they have almost like the Salem witch trials. The square goes to the council and tries to convey to them what they experience, but they want to burn them at the stake because this is blasphemy. So this square has to go, you know, go to court and explain exactly why this is a true real experience. And it's it. It falls on deaf ears, but it's a fascinating example of just what you were describing how in our six senses, but four dimensions that we can, we can actually physically experience. Obviously, there's other ways we can experience higher dimensions, I guess, through altered states, but you have a sense of there might be something bigger than us that is either interacting with us like, let's say, phenomena like thunderstorms or wind or whatever, just anything like that. We just don't have the capacity to physically perceive them in the state that they are. But it's all happening. So if you think of us like the ants, like I was just saying earlier than then, yeah, it all makes sense.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:29:07] When you say sense, that's a good thing because I have a new joke I've been doing. I don't want to do it here, but it's about watching videos of a baby hears for the first time, like a toddler who was born deaf. They'll do a procedure and they capture the moment when they hear for the first time and they all cry, the family cry and the joke. I go, I'm watching the video and the baby's crying. The mom is crying, the doctor's crying, I'm at Starbucks crying. So the whole thing is, if there's another sense like you can't describe it, you can only describe it using the senses that we experience.

Evan Ferantte: [00:29:40] How about the people who taste colors and.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:29:42] Right, right?

Evan Ferantte: [00:29:44] See music, it's like, have everything twisted. That's pretty incredible.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:29:46] So I think we're at the point of the show where we have to decide which theory becomes the unofficial official story. This is something that we can't take for granted, and it's not a decision that that we should take lightly because this is going to be the official unofficial story forever.

Jennifer Field: [00:29:59] Yeah, serious.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:30:00] Yeah, this is a serious matter. So this is why we're here. This is why we're here. Yeah, this is going to decide our story about what really happened to Flight MH 370. So, Evan, since you're our guest. Which theory did you want to try to go With. 

Evan Ferantte: [00:30:11] The one that's the most plausible, the one that I really just been stuck with, like the tentacles of a squid? Is this a squid game I'm all about?

Dwayne Perkins: [00:30:20] Yeah, I agree. I agree with the squid, the squid thing simply because it's sort of like it's no human error and and the ocean is so deep. We don't we haven't explored the ocean.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:30:32] I'll go with the squid. But the one question we have to answer is how the hell did a squid get at 30000 feet to take this plane?

Dwayne Perkins: [00:30:38] The squid is electric.

Jennifer Field: [00:30:39] Yeah, you're right. You're right. How did it make it go off its route?

Evan Ferantte: [00:30:42] Well, it could have messed with not the sonar, but the electrical kind of the energetic state of the plane.

Jennifer Field: [00:30:48] Yeah, like a tractor beam like in like the alien spaceships. Yeah. So I think that's maybe what's what happens

Dwayne Perkins: [00:30:57] Maybe this giant squid has satellites of other squids, or it can break off part of itself, right? And maybe just maybe one of the pilots was at the beach a few days before this flight.

Evan Ferantte: [00:31:11] Yeah.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:31:11] And it was bit by a smaller squid that reports to the Big squid. 

Evan Ferantte: [00:31:16] I've heard about biting squids. Yeah, I've heard about that.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:31:18] Right, right.

Evan Ferantte: [00:31:20] And if someone gets bitten by a squid, you got to pee on them. You got to urinate.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:31:23] Right? Right. I think that's jellyfish. But basically, this guy had squid brain now, and he got on that plane. He was being controlled by the giant squid.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:31:39] Ok. That answers all the questions.

Evan Ferantte: [00:31:41] No ones proposed. Maybe the squid could fly, though. No one's proposed that.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:31:45] I know that's right. There we go without limitations, you know?

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:31:49] Yeah. Yeah. We just don't know. But it was a squid fault, for sure.

Evan Ferantte: [00:31:52] Yes, for sure.

Jennifer Field: [00:31:53] And that is the official story. So we're going to take another break and when we return, we'll give you some. Very important advice that might just keep you alive, OK? This month, we're going to do something that Koji does with his son all the time, Koji, you want to explain?

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:32:09] Yeah, me and my son are obsessed with watching videos on YouTube about how to survive disasters like fires, earthquakes, atomic bombs and plane crashes. Like, did you know that you're more likely to survive an airplane crash if you sit in the back of the plane rather than the front? And another one is it's the thumb test. If the mushroom cloud is bigger than your thumb, you've got to get out of there quicker.

Jennifer Field: [00:32:29] That's a trip. All right. So in honor of that, in our subject, let's all share our very best. How to survive a disaster.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:32:37] My first one is most important one the one I tell everybody who's about to fly on a plane. Planes catch on fire very, very, very quickly when people die in an airplane crash. They usually die while in their seats, and the reason they die in their seats is because they're waiting to be told what to do.

Jennifer Field: [00:32:50] Uh-huh.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:32:50] But what you have to do is the moment you land. However you land, you've got to get out of that plane. You have to find a way out of that plane because if you wait even a second, you're going to get caught in the fire. So like I was saying, so many people die in the plane with their seatbelts on when they could have survived. And a lot of times it's because we're waiting for somebody to tell us, Oh, well, please get up, go to the exit. No, no, that's not what you do. You crawl, you climb. You jump. You do whatever you can to get out of that plane as fast as you possibly can. By saving yourself, you'll save other people because when other people see you trying to leave, they also will get up and try to leave as well. But when nobody gets up, everyone's going to wait. And a lot of times the flight attendants, no offense, the flight attendants, they don't know what they're doing. They've never been in a crash before,

Evan Ferantte: [00:33:28] Right. 

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:33:29] They're just trying to figure it out, too. And so one of the things I do when I get on a plane is I always count how many seats or how many rows there are between me and the two nearest exit. And the reason being is that if I'm crawling the ground, I need to be able to count how many rows I have to go before I could get out. If I if I have to crawl. So that's a big thing. Don't wait. And this is good advice for anything, for any kind of disaster is never wait for people to tell you what to do. You have to make quick decisions and you have to just do it. And a lot of times, authority doesn't know, you know, 9/11 is a good example of that. People are telling you wait in the office, which is a terrible idea because the building was going to go down. You just need to get out of there.

Evan Ferantte: [00:34:02] No, it's interesting that you said that I found that highly informative. So thank you for that.

Jennifer Field: [00:34:06] Yeah

Evan Ferantte: [00:34:06] But it's not something that they can ever the authorities authorities on the plane tell everyone to do because then they'll just be running out of there getting out of their seat so they can't tell you to do that. It'll just cause chaos. But that is a great way. That is a great tip.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:34:20] Plane crash wise, I would say, sit in the exit row when you can, right? If you book your flight in advance, you can find out which rows

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:34:28] It's actually safer in the back of the plane. 

Dwayne Perkins: [00:34:29] Or even the exit row, the furthest back exit row. And if you can get some custom made clothes that are stylish but also flame retardant?

Evan Ferantte: [00:34:41] Yeah

Dwayne Perkins: [00:34:41] I think that could that could help. And then also your hand to hand combat got to be good because at some point people are going to fight each other and you've got to be ready.

Jennifer Field: [00:34:51] Oh, that's good. Have some self-defense skills a little bit.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:34:56] Yeah, OK.

Jennifer Field: [00:34:56] A little bit of jujitsu or some kind of Right. 

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:34:59] Doing armbar while you're leaving. That's going to. Yeah. Jennifer, let's hear. What's your disaster advice?

Jennifer Field: [00:35:06] Well, my first instinct was sort of silly, but I think I used it in a previous episode, which was like, I always like to use seduction as my tool again. That's my first thought is like, how do I seduce the smartest person in the room that's going to save me? Yeah, that's my thing. But I don't know if that's really practical, but that was my initial instinct, because that's what I use as that's what I often use in my life doesn't mean you have to go all the way. You know, you can just do a little flirting, you know? But really? So I was talking to Evan about this the other day. I haven't really talked to everyone about it. I'm a long hauler of COVID, so I'm going on 12 months now. I have symptoms and I will tell you that the only hope I have and what I've learned about surviving shit, surviving disaster is the shit, the tulpa of the mind over matter. So it's a little bit different than tulpa because it's not like everyone needs to root for me. I am a firm, I think believer of praying. I mean, I'm not religious, but prayer. Putting that energy out helps so in mind over matter. And I think we touched on this on another podcast to Koji at one point about the will to live. Remember, you were saying we talked about that, that will can help you. So that's my advice to survive a disaster really is that is to have that belief in a higher power in God and to pray and believe

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:36:24] That's actually great advice. And what Jennifer was talking about is the number one advice for any end of the world or any kind of like when whole society goes down is that there is enough food and shelter and water everywhere like we go to VONS If we go to a supermarket, we could survive for 10 years on just the canned food aisle.

Evan Ferantte: [00:36:41] Yeah

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:36:41] What is the what is the thing that's going to make you survive is that we'll live like, do you want to live? Because a lot of people will say, I don't have Facebook or I don't have a car or I don't have a job or I can't go to school or whatever their thing is. A lot of people are like, Fuck, I don't want to live anymore, I'm just going to die, and they just die.

Evan Ferantte: [00:36:57] What about the people who? Hoard all the toilet paper. You know, there's people who raid these bonds.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:37:03] But the point being more, it's like if you're willing to live, you'll find a way like I can raid my neighbor's house and there's probably years worth of food.

Evan Ferantte: [00:37:10] If you want to survive, you cannot throw in the towel,

Jennifer Field: [00:37:12] Right?

Evan Ferantte: [00:37:12] I have. I have an answer for you because I've been thinking about this is I hear all these terrific answers and insight into into survival. So mine is very simple. Your salvation is in Dianetics steam baths. That's all you need, and it's the only way to get clear, crystal clear. So yeah, you just you just want to practice the tenets of Scientology, and that's that's really it. Then you'll get through anything you'll transcend because everything is everything. And you know, I am you and you are you and we are the walrus. You know,

Dwayne Perkins: [00:37:45] That's amazing. That's amazing. And I just want to say one thing about Jennifer's to is that the seduction at part of it? Don't like underestimate that. Don't. 

Jennifer Field: [00:37:53] Lean it into it, Jennifer,

Dwayne Perkins: [00:37:55] Because It's not like about hooking up with them in the middle of the disaster,

Jennifer Field: [00:37:58] Right. 

Dwayne Perkins: [00:37:59] It's about who's the smartest guy, OK? And you're giving them hope, like just grabbing his arm. And I know you can get us out of this in his mind. In the old world, I couldn't be with you, right? But in a new world,

Jennifer Field: [00:38:11] Right,

Dwayne Perkins: [00:38:11] That if I survive and make it to the new world, I get to be with you. You just motivated him. You just gave him motivation.

Evan Ferantte: [00:38:17] Let's not underestimate the power of seduction. Ok?

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:38:22] My son. The other day we were talking about the end of the world and he's like, Daddy, you offer nothing. No one's going to need a screenwriter or a producer at the end of the world. And I was like, Oh, fuck you think I think you're right? Maybe I could offer myself a seduction, but it'd have to be a really desperate person that would want me as their as their concubine. Right?

Dwayne Perkins: [00:38:41] Which you have to say, Koji is like, OK, eventually a new civilization will start, and when the smoke clears, you're going to need some stories.

Jennifer Field: [00:38:52] We need Entertainment.

Evan Ferantte: [00:38:53] Entertainment will always live on, right? We'll, die of boredom. People. People need entertainment. People need to be stimulated.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:39:00] I appreciate that, guys. But I'm dead. I mean, I'm on my own.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:39:07] Wow, that was that was a lot of fun. Thank you, Evan, for coming on with us. And please tell us, tell people where they can follow you and all that stuff.

Evan Ferantte: [00:39:15] Yeah, I'm just basically known as not Tom Cruise. That's actually the way that I was legally allowed to do what I do other than parody laws. And all that, but not Tom Cruise was a was given to me by a show years ago I did for Disney, and because I couldn't afford the an attorney to kind of like, figure out what was acceptable, I use Disney's attorneys because they have a lot of money and a lot of lot of resources. And I just basically took the name and ran with it. So anyway, not Tom Cruise, where on Instagram, Twitter, TikTok, I'm on everything. I don't think I'm on Snapchat, but I do. I do it all.

Jennifer Field: [00:39:50] Are you Available for parties and weddings and Stuff?

Evan Ferantte: [00:39:53] Yeah, you know, it's funny. I don't normally do those things, but I recently did my first wedding and it was a blast. But yeah, usually I say no to the bar mitzvah bar mitzvah thing, and I don't do windows. And that's all. That's always the expression. No, I'm open to it all because I do what I do because it actually brings people a lot of joy.

Jennifer Field: [00:40:09] Well, thank you, Evan, and thank you all so much for listening. There's a million podcasts out there. We're so honored you've chosen artists listen to, so shout out to everyone on the unofficial official story podcast Listening Family. Thank you so much.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:40:23] And please check out our website. Unofficial official story dot com for our show notes or to hear our past episodes.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:40:29] You should have come back next month where we answer the question was gangsta rap created and pushed to send more people to prison?

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:40:36] Absolutely.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:40:39] I would have to agree. And you know who else agrees? Digable Planets.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:40:46] All right, guys.

Jennifer Field: [00:40:46] All right,

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:40:47] Later, bye. Thank you.

Jennifer Field: [00:40:48] Thank you.

Evan Ferantte: [00:40:49] Bye guys.