S1E8 Does the U.S. Capitol Building Have a Demon Cat Problem? With Comedian Jodi Miller

Dwayne Perkins: [00:00:05] Hello, hello, hello. Welcome to episode number eight of the unofficial official story. I'm Dwayne Perkins, the class clown.

Jennifer Field: [00:00:12] Hey, listeners, I'm Jennifer. The fearless investigator.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:00:15] What's up? I'm Koji, the so-called chief of the show.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:00:18] This is a podcast where we tell you the official story. We're going to take a look at the paranormal conspiracies, unexplained phenomena, cryptids and even true crime.

Jennifer Field: [00:00:28] In this episode, we're asking the question Does the Capitol building have a demon cat problem

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:00:33] By the end? We'll tell you what really maybe happened.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:00:37] But first, we brought on a guest comedian. Good friend of mine Jody Miller is in the building. Well, sort of in the building.

Jennifer Field: [00:00:44] Jodi Miller is the host of the world's funniest weather, and she has been performing stand up all over the country for over 20 years. You've seen her on season nine of America's Got Talent and on Comedy Central and Netflix. Jodi is currently the head writer and on camera talent for the syndicated comedy game show. Funny, you should ask.

Jodi Miller: [00:01:05] Hi, guys.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:01:06] Hi.

Jodi Miller: [00:01:07] I'm also the demon cat. So this episode is over. So there you go. Thanks, guys. Thanks for tuning In.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:01:14] So, Jodi, how many cats do you have?

Jodi Miller: [00:01:15] I have, and it's funny that I get that question all the time. Normally, my answer would be like one, because I only talk about one cat on stage. But ever since I moved into this house, I now have three outdoor cats. But they're through. The last couple of years have been like a cast of cats that have come through my yard. It's really interesting. One just showed up, maybe two months after I moved in here and I started feeding her and she's become like my outdoor cat. And I'll never forget because it was like the second day that she came back. She just sort of had this look in her eye, probably similar to Demon Cat, her look said there will be more and there are. Apparently there's a registry that goes out in cities, in cities and suburbs about all the single women over 40 and all the cats got one and they just started showing up at my house. So now I've got three outside, one indoor and a baby. Hey, I'm killing, I'm killing it. Anybody single two. So come and get it.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:02:11] What's funny about that is I write on that game show that Jodi is the head writer of, and so we go way back even in comedy and on the ongoing joke on the show when when you're on the show sometimes is, you only have one cat.

Jodi Miller: [00:02:25] Yes,

Dwayne Perkins: [00:02:25] and I always felt like that was the that was sort of like, don't go above one because then you're a cat lady.

Jodi Miller: [00:02:31] Yeah, but You still are a cat lady. I could have a half a cat. I could have a stuffed animal. I could actually have just a ghost demon cat, and I'd still be labeled a cat lady. It doesn't matter. You don't hear like, dog lady. She's a crazy dog, lady. No, she's like a cool dog, lady. It's just crazy cat, lady.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:02:50] What's the biggest misconception of a cat, lady?

Jodi Miller: [00:02:53] We're crazy. I'm not crazy. It's like, I don't understand why. You know, people spend thousands, thousands more on their dogs. They take them everywhere with them. They dress them up in costumes. They do all of this stuff, and it's adorable. The second I pull out one picture of my cat, one picture, everyone was like, Whoa, settle down, cat lady. It's like, I'm not wearing fur mittens and like, I'm not. It's like, I don't have my cat with me. You've got like three dogs, and I'm just showing you a picture of my cat and you're like, Oh my God, this person is like a crazy cat, lady.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:03:27] You know What? That's that's amazing. I feel like dogs have a better PR person.

Jodi Miller: [00:03:32] They definitely do. Like, who is your PR person?

Dwayne Perkins: [00:03:35] Whoever does Bacon also is on the dog campaign because those are the two things that we love and they're acceptable everywhere. Like dogs are on planes. They're in stores

Jodi Miller: [00:03:45] They're Everywhere. It's too much.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:03:47] Bacon is on donuts like they're both doing a great job killing it.

Jodi Miller: [00:03:51] Cats need a better PR person. Cats are better pets. I'm sorry, you don't have to give them all that attention. You can leave for more than four hours. It's like, I don't understand why. We're like, we're actually just more like independent people. We don't need to be likeAll the time.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:04:08] I like cats, but I think it's the attachment to like witches, because for me to bring a cat into my home, I'm always worried about sleeping. And then, is the cat going to suck my soul out?

Jodi Miller: [00:04:17] Why do people that's like such an old wives? It's so Crazy. A dog will eat its own crap, but everybody's worried about a cat, just like jumping up on your chest and sucking the air out of your lungs. Are you like? That's crazy. One is reality, and one is not yet proven. That's a totally different show. If cats actually suck the air out of your. I was like was an episode of What was that? An episode of Like Tales from the DarkSide or something that and then just stuck and everyone's like, Don't get cats. I'm like, Uh, yeah, I I mouth kiss my cat.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:04:49] Come on, Jennifer, are you a cat or A dog person?

Jennifer Field: [00:04:51] Dog person? Only because I'm sadly allergic to cats.

Jodi Miller: [00:04:55] You know what, though? You can get over that, though.

Jennifer Field: [00:04:58] How, tell me,

Jodi Miller: [00:04:59] I actually doknow, two people and it's funny, like Kevin Nealon is one of them, I did his show and we talked about it, if you are around. First of all, there are like three breeds that are hypoallergenic. But if you are around them, like for a longer period of time, let's say you started dating someone and they had a cat and you guys moved in together, you would actually develop an immunity. You could take like Claritin and then your body would sort of like sort of get used to that cat. Yeah, people come into my house and they're allergic, but they don't seem to have any allergic reaction to it. It's also like where you live, too.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:05:27] But Jody, why don't you tell us, where are you from?

Jodi Miller: [00:05:29] I'm from Jersey originally, and I've been in California now got like twenty two years. Twenty three

Dwayne Perkins: [00:05:35] Years. Yeah, same as me. Same as me

Jodi Miller: [00:05:37] Aggressively Long.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:05:38] And like Jodie being from Jersey. Me being from New York, I've always, you know, we work on a show together. She's like, reminds me of all the girls I grew up with, like Jersey, New York. You know, big hair, Bon Jovi.

Jodi Miller: [00:05:51] I have. I found a can of aqua net up in Santa Barbara, and I have it, and I like use it every day because it reminds me of Jersey. It's like,

Dwayne Perkins: [00:05:59] Do you miss Jersey?

Jodi Miller: [00:06:00] You know, I miss a lot of things about it. I miss the people I miss. You know, I miss people like you do and you're like everybody I grew up with to everybody. I started acting and comedy in New York and just the energy and the vibe and.

Jodi Miller: [00:06:11] Right, right.

Jodi Miller: [00:06:12] I miss that for sure. You knnow I don't want to live. I mean, to go back there, I would want to move into New York, and you have to have like even more money than you have to have out here. It's just like too much money everywhere to live anywhere anymore.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:06:25] Right?

Jodi Miller: [00:06:25] We're all going to have to just move to like Kansas? Yeah.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:06:29] And how did you get into comedy?

Jodi Miller: [00:06:30] I actually was acting in New York. I was with two schools in New York and one of them had a school out here. So they did like this week, long like intensive where you come out to L.A. and you, you do your dramatic monologue and your comedic monologue for casting directors and producers. And it was just some producer was, you know, who changed the course of my life, just randomly said, Do you do comedy? And of course, I was twenty four and I was like, I can do anything like, I thought he was like, offering me a job. He was just giving me advice, but he's like, You should do comedy. You have really good timing. And I'm like, What's timing? He's like, That's timing. He's like, You should should take a class or do something. And I went back to New York and I took a standup class because that's what I was doing. I was just taking classes. At the end. You have to perform like five minutes on stage and it was at Stand Up New York. I'd already been performing on stage for many years, doing musical theater since I was a child. So it's not that I wasn't familiar with performing in front of live people, but I can tell you I've never been that nervous. Dwayne, I'm sure you remember that that first. It's like unlike anything you're like. And you know, the comedy gods bless. I think anybody that gets on stage. And afterwards, some lady came up to me and she was like, Hey, I run a show, you know, don't tell mama's 42 street, do you want to come do it? I do it on Thursday, and I was like, Oh God, no, I just had to do it once for this guy in L.A., like, I didn't even know how it worked. She was like, OK, I'll see you Thursday. I'm like, What? And that was, yeah, that was. I think I've been doing comedy now. Twenty six years, which Is nuts. 

Dwayne Perkins: [00:07:59] Did you think you had to do different jokes each time? A lot of us think that when we first started?

Jodi Miller: [00:08:03] Yeah, that's so funny because I teach a standup class. I taught it for years and you know, I don't teach it when I'm working, but like when we have extra long hiatus is like the one we're on. I just thought, I have to do that again. It was just the thought of it. It was nauseating. I realized if I take the class again, I'll get another five minutes without even having to like, really do any work. That actually brought me into improv, which got me into acting. And then I came out here, you know, more acting. It opened more doors and standup was actually the only thing that was I ever like people offered. They asked me to do it. Acting was so difficult. I was like, Why can't I get a job acting? But everybody wants me to do a show? And then I finally stopped resisting it, and here I am with a baby and forecasts. I mean, that's that's the comedy dream everyone I'm living.

Jennifer Field: [00:08:45] It sounds awesome.

Jodi Miller: [00:08:45] Thanks, Jennifer. I'm going to make you a cat person by the end of the show.

Jennifer Field: [00:08:48] I want to be. I love all Animals.

Jodi Miller: [00:08:51] Yeah,

Dwayne Perkins: [00:08:51] You're one of the busiest people I know because you work on our show, you have the weather show. You run a show called Stand Up when we're doing a show soon and then you add a baby to that and you add cats to that. I'm just wondering, what's what's that process been like for you?

Jodi Miller: [00:09:06] I actually believe it or not. It is kind of a blessing that the game show is on such a long hiatus because I am still doing the weather show and obviously I'm producing the live shows and I'm still performing, you know, weekly. But she's asleep, you know? Most people, I mean, I became a mom overnight, so it's definitely been a very, very, very hard, difficult road. I was in the adoption system for a year and a half, and then it happened literally that one night I was doing a podcast and at the end of it, my lawyer had sent me something and I just, you know, sent it in and forgot about it. And two hours later, he was like, You've been selected and I go, for what? He's like, you have to get on a plane tomorrow and go to Kentucky. That was the most traumatic part about the whole experience was Kentucky. I was like Kentucky, What's in Kentucky. He's like, Your baby was born an hour ago, right? What's a baby? I was so like, I wonder, what do I do?

Dwayne Perkins: [00:09:59] Surprise they wouldn't Amazon the baby.

Jodi Miller: [00:10:00] No, I know. Then I would have at least had two days Dwayne. I would have at least had two days to prepare. Send the baby the cat, my cat jersey. That's his name, his. He's an older cat. He's actually totally fine with her. For the most part, he's sort of indifferent and then sort of was protective. My outdoor cats. It's funny because there's only one that lets me pet him and I'm going to get him fixed. I've actually trapped a couple of them and had them neutered and released, and I found one forever home. So this one, I'm falling in love with these like kind of a kitten like and I'm going to get him fixed and kind of keep him as my outdoor cat. But my daughter is now at the age where she's really noticing them. So every morning, when I open up her curtains, they're waiting to be fed outside. And I just hold her and she looks at them and she's like, getting it now. Like, Oh, these are things that run around because my cat has not that much interest in her. So she's seeing these other like lively cats, and she's like, Oh, I also, by the way, have a family of raccoons that live in my backyard, a family of possums. It's like Sherwood Forest in my backyard.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:10:59] Nice.

Jodi Miller: [00:10:59] I'm not even kidding. Raccoons had like three babies and it was like amazing and also really scary to watch the like. The mom is like holding the baby and like picking up the cat treats and like staring at me. I was like, What's happening? They're taking over. But yeah, so there's a lot of babies, there's a lot of babies and a lot of animals Where I live.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:11:14] That's great. I smell a sitcom.

Jodi Miller: [00:11:16] I smell something. But it's you know what it is. It's too many animals and too many dirty diapers.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:11:23] Ok, well, what do you think, guys? Should we should we get into it?

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:11:27] Yep, let's do it.

Jennifer Field: [00:11:28] Let's do it.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:11:28] Ok, one of the things we all watch to give us a deep background on the subject was a super awkward news clip with a snarky congressman on YouTube. We'll put it in a link. Show notes. Ok. And here are the facts.

Jennifer Field: [00:11:40] All right, guys. Imagine you're a night watchman in the Capitol building, and as you walk the empty, dark halls, you see a cute black cat and then the cat creeps towards you. It all seems fine until it starts to move closer, where it becomes the size of a prehistoric tiger. And just as it leaps toward your face, it disappears.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:12:04] Sounds terrible. Terribly frightening.

Jodi Miller: [00:12:06] Sounds like my dream.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:12:07] The Demon Cat is one of the most famous Washington, D.C. ghost stories and has lasted since the mid 1800s. According to Legend, the cat at first looks like an ordinary cat, but can grow to the size of an elephant. We've read 10 feet by 10 feet. That's that's big. I don't know math, even though I'm Asian, but I think that's that's a pretty big cat. If I saw one of those cats, I'd probably freak out.

Jodi Miller: [00:12:27] No, I would not. I'd be like, Come here, Kitty Kitty. I'm that person that it's like a mountain lion wandered in my backyard. I'd be like, I'm a cat person. I can touch it. And then, like, I would be an amputee. Like, You know what I mean by

Dwayne Perkins: [00:12:40] 10 by 10 feet is massive. That's like in New York and New York City. That's a that's a that's two people who can live in an apartment of that size. Let's take a step back. Why are they even cats in a Capitol building in the first place? Do they keep them as pets? Apparently, what it is is in the mid-1800s, there was a rat problem in the building's tunnels and basements. And what better way to get get rid of rats than cats? But who knew it would lead to this problem? In Jersey, they get rid of rats a whole different way, but we won't get into that.

Jennifer Field: [00:13:10] How?

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:13:10] How do they get rid of rats? Oh, that right? I get it.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:13:13] Thank you, Koji. Join us. 

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:13:15] I'm a little slow. I'm a little bit slow.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:13:17] So in the nineteen thirty five Washington Post article, they wrote up this about a purported demon cat encounter. And I quote one day, for instance, a Capitol policeman whose integrity is better than his marksmanship reported pot shot at a big black cat that seemed to grow as I looked at it from his description. I don't know what that word. Maybe Jody, no sticky and feline appeared to have the eyes of and the generous proportions of Mae West Mae West, plus the disposition of Bela Lugosi. That's a vampire, dude. When I shot at the critter, it jumped right over my head. Eddie Cantor explained guardian of capital tradition and decorum. What's weird is how much language has changed. 

Jodi Miller: [00:14:00] So much. And also, why is the cat sexualized into like Mae West?

Jennifer Field: [00:14:05] Yeah.

Jodi Miller: [00:14:05] The cat had a rack on it like no Other. 

Dwayne Perkins: [00:14:09] Right and critter? And how do we know if this guy was a good marksman? Like, it's so it's all over the place?

Jennifer Field: [00:14:14] All right, so what are some of the evidence of the demon cat's existence? In 1898, there was a gas explosion in the capital when they replaced the stone with concrete. There are allegedly cat footprints, which you can still see if you Google it.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:14:30] Did you get anybody, Google the footprints?

Dwayne Perkins: [00:14:32] I looked at it a little bit. It's hard to, you know, it was kind of like you have to zoom in on it. So I was like, Yeah, I guess those are cat prints. Maybe, you know,

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:14:40] Jodi is our resident cat expert were They cat prints.

Jodi Miller: [00:14:42] I mean, they look like cat prints, but like. And by the way, it's so easy for cats to like, touch anything, my cat. When it goes in the litter box, I see cat prints like on the floor. I mean, it looks like cat prints. I mean, looks like really old, weird, you know what I mean? But I could definitely see it being cat prints.

Jennifer Field: [00:14:57] Yeah, I mean, I've seen. Before, I've been on sidewalks and stuff we've seen like animal prints,

Jodi Miller: [00:15:02] Of course,

Jennifer Field: [00:15:03] In the concrete, so. So that wasn't to me that wasn't that weird. I don't know why that was.

Jodi Miller: [00:15:07] But that's not the weird to me, either.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:15:09] Now if there were 10 by 10 footprints of it.

Jodi Miller: [00:15:12] Well, now if there was a massive cat print, that's not what that look like. But yes,

Dwayne Perkins: [00:15:16] Right, that's a good Point. 

Jennifer Field: [00:15:17] In another part of the building. Some cat supposedly scratched the letters DC into the concrete, which obviously means demon cat.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:15:27] I mean, obviously there's only one thing it can mean.

Jodi Miller: [00:15:29] It can't mean Washington, D.c.,

Jennifer Field: [00:15:31] Right? Not at all. 

Jodi Miller: [00:15:33] It can't mean dinner coming.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:15:37] It's not just a demon cat, but it's an litterate demon cat

Jodi Miller: [00:15:39] That was going to say, that's really. Yeah, it's pretty. Wow, That's a smart cat.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:15:45] I mean, I have a dog. I don't have a cat, but I don't think I want my dog litterate.

Jodi Miller: [00:15:48] It can also be a cat that loves DC Comics. I mean,

Dwayne Perkins: [00:15:53] I like that.

Jennifer Field: [00:15:53] I like that, too.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:15:55] What kind of person likes DC Comics, though? I think I personally think they're suspicious. Personally,

Dwayne Perkins: [00:15:59] I think you're talking about the movies, but I think the actual comic book.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:16:02] The spooky thing about the legend is if you see the cat, something terrible will happen. The cat was allegedly seen before John Quincy Adams death. The challenger explosion in 9/11 and the JFK and Abraham Lincoln assassination. The last official sighting was in the nineteen forties.

Jodi Miller: [00:16:17] Then that doesn't make sense. That doesn't even track the last official sighting 1940s, but yet after not before nine 9/11, they saw it.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:16:25] Exactly, but that was official. That was like they they got it notarized. The other ones, they didn't get notarized.

Jodi Miller: [00:16:31] So, yeah, exactly. So after like the challenger someone's like and I saw a black cat. I don't know. I mean,

Dwayne Perkins: [00:16:37] Someone was like, Are you? Do you want to go on a record on record officially? No, no, not official.

Jodi Miller: [00:16:42] Oh, no, no. I mean, it could have been any cat. It could have actually been orange, could have been an orange tabby cat, but it looked dark.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:16:48] Well, Steve Livingood, the U.S. Capitol's Historical Society's chief tour guide. That's a job, I guess. Yeah, yeah, you are living good if you got that job anyway. He has an explanation for the legend. What he says is back in the day, the guards were often related to senators and congressmen nepotism privilege. In other words, they were drunks. They couldn't do anything else. So these guards would claim that they saw and were attacked by a demon cat. But because of their connections, they cannot be disciplined for drinking on a job so they they couldn't get fired basically. Instead, they would be sent home. Other guards would see this and make similar claims so they could get off work as well. So it basically became of like, I'm sick. It's like our people use COVID symptoms now. Back then it was. It was Demon Cat. 

Jodi Miller: [00:17:31] Demon Cat symptoms.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:17:32] Yes, yes.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:17:32] When I first saw that, I wondered, Are these the same guards that were protecting our Capitol building on January six? I mean, it seemed like they just let them go through.

Jennifer Field: [00:17:42] All right. Another fun fact is the Washington football team, formerly known by their racist team name, the Redskins. Those guys, yeah, at one point considered the name Demon Cats.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:17:53] They should have done it.

Jodi Miller: [00:17:54] Yeah, great.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:17:55] I mean, demon cats would have been an awesome name way better than the Redskins.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:17:58] Absolutely.

Jodi Miller: [00:17:59] Yeah.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:18:00] Although now now they're referred to as the Washington football team, which is. 

Jennifer Field: [00:18:03] That's So. 

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:18:04] Really weird.

Jodi Miller: [00:18:05] They couldn't have come up with anything more clever, just like, Oh, it's the Washington football team kind of team. You know, we're we're the Washington football team that's totally different than the Washington soccer team and the Washington baseball team.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:18:16] I feel like they're going to they're just going to wait a year and feel like, guys, we tried every name in the book, so we're going to go back to Redskins. You know what?

Jodi Miller: [00:18:25] We're going to spell it differently. So you know what I mean,

Dwayne Perkins: [00:18:27] Right?

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:18:27] No, no. They're going to find an obscure Native American nation and tribe, and that is OK with it. And they're like, Oh, well, they said, it's OK.

Jennifer Field: [00:18:34] Right,

Dwayne Perkins: [00:18:35] Exactly. Or maybe they'll they'll call it the potato skins, you know, just after what you eat.

Jodi Miller: [00:18:41] I'd like that little chives.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:18:43] That would be hilarious.

Jodi Miller: [00:18:44] But then I'm sure potatoes would get offended and we wouldn't be.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:18:47] Exactly, exactly. But I like that the cheerleaders would be called the chives.

Jodi Miller: [00:18:51] Oh yeah. We're not the tater tots.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:18:54] Oh, there you go. Yeah. Very nice.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:18:57] Good job.

Jennifer Field: [00:18:58] Those are great. I'm down. Yeah.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:19:01] What do you guys think? Does the Capitol building have a demon cat problem?

Dwayne Perkins: [00:19:04] When we come back, we'll put our minds together and figure out what really? Maybe happened, guys, we can use your help. We aren't on a big network and we don't have big backers, we aren't getting paid. Wait, wait. We're not. We're not getting paid. That's why we need your help. Please consider supporting us on Patreon. Any amount helps us pay for the show. We are planning on having exclusive content for our supporters, so stay tuned. Hey, guys. So now that we've discussed the facts, let's workshop our ideas.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:19:38] This is all because of what dogs did. So the dogs didn't like the cats getting. They didn't want cats to become the main pet for people.

Jennifer Field: [00:19:46] Man's best friend, OK,

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:19:48] They're worried about that. So they started this conspiracy once people thought that these demon cats would start to kill all the cats and nobody would ever have them as pets anymore. But then so so that was like what it happened. But unfortunately, it just didn't work because of the quality of the guards that were working there. So nobody believed them because they're just a bunch of drunks who just were lazy and didn't want to work. But then the cats, don't worry, they got them back because you know how everybody hates pit bulls or there's a lot of laws against pit bulls. That is a cat conspiracy going the other way. So they were like, Oh, these pit bulls are super dangerous and we should kill them all. So that's that's my theory. It's just there was never a demon cats.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:20:22] So almost like a dog lobby.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:20:24] Exactly. The dog Pr Film.

Jennifer Field: [00:20:26] Yeah.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:20:27] Well, it's kind of like a war like East Coast, West Coast, Biggie, Tupac kind of war. You know, obviously, Tupac is the dog and biggie with the cats, but you know, something like that.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:20:37] What? Obviously. 

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:20:39] Only because I like dogs. So the dogs are the people I like. I'm on the dog side. No offense, Jodie, but I'm a dog person. Although I have a quick story about my dog and my cat. When the dog and cat were in the same room, they would actually hang out and snuggle and go and walks together. But the moment a human came into the room, they would like get into it.

Jodi Miller: [00:20:55] No, they don't want people to know.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:20:56] Yeah, they don't want people to know that they were friends, but like all day like I would, I'd watch them on like a camera and they'd be like snuggling and hanging out and like rubbing their faces against each other and sleeping together. And then like, the moment someone comes in that room, it's like after each other. It's like it was like the weirdest. So they needed to keep the keep the beef up, you know, in Front of humans. 

Jodi Miller: [00:21:16] You got to guess, you got to remind people that they're, you know, mortal enemies.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:21:21] Exactly.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:21:22] Koji, is it dog people or literally dogs?

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:21:25] Literally the dogs. Literally, the dogs are doing this for not dog people. That's great. It's kind of like Harry Potter. You know, how there's like these witches and wizards and, you know, hanging out like there's a whole like Hogwarts. It's just like that, except dogs and cats.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:21:37] I see, I see love that. I like it. I like it.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:21:39] Yeah. Jennifer, what's your theory?

Jennifer Field: [00:21:41] My theory is that there was some kind of change that happens in the 40s because that was the last time supposedly it's been documented that they were spotted. But I don't actually know what that change is. I just know that World War Two had ended. And so that was sort of like a lot of people look at. I think that is like that was such a big deal, right? Like my family always talks about like that was a big change in terms of like American culture and stuff, and it's probably one of the most infamous right wars. And so my theory is not fully fleshed out. It's just I think there was some kind of shift that happened. And so the cat went away with a cat was a part of the old world. And now we're in the new world, the new modern contemporary world. And I don't know if that's good or bad, but the demon cat is gone with that.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:22:32] Well, so it was the demon cat real before in the old world.

Jennifer Field: [00:22:35] Yeah, he was a real ghost cat. Yeah. So like, he wasn't like an actual regular black cat. He or she was. It was a demon cat.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:22:43] I like that maybe it was like sucked back to the center of the Earth.

Jennifer Field: [00:22:46] Hmm.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:22:47] There's a lot there because or maybe the capital of the underworld moved.

Jennifer Field: [00:22:52] There you go.

Jodi Miller: [00:22:52] That's true. The Earth had shifted. The plane shifted. Yes, parallel universe. All that.

Jennifer Field: [00:22:58] Yeah. Got it. 

Jennifer Field: [00:22:58] There in there somewhere, and it'll come back. So therefore, yes, it was real in terms of it being a demon cat, like not of this world and it's a mystery. So we have yet to find out, and I hope it comes back.

Jodi Miller: [00:23:11] I think it will.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:23:11] Maybe when we dropped the bomb on Hiroshima that the seismic like movement of it close to the portal,

Jodi Miller: [00:23:19] The Demon Cat Portal.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:23:20] Yeah, the Demon Camp Portal was closed.

Jennifer Field: [00:23:22] Bingo.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:23:22] Well, Dwayne, what's your theory?

Dwayne Perkins: [00:23:24] Here's what I think. I think that the cafeteria at the Capitol building, you know, back in the day, it wasn't sort of like regulated, right? So the chefs in the cafeteria, sometimes they would make like a hearty stock, like a big barley soup and they would throw mushrooms in. And these mushrooms weren't always like, you know, they didn't go to they didn't go to Whole Foods and get these mushrooms. Sometimes they would just go pick these mushrooms. And some of these mushrooms were hallucinogenic mushrooms. So the security guards, like right before the night shift, they'd sit down and they would eat some barley with mushrooms in it. And then they'd have these hallucinations and the cats would look big. And and basically the first guy who had his is hallucination, he told other people. So that kind of like informed their Hallucination, so these these security guards, unbeknownst to them, they were tripping on shrooms.

Jennifer Field: [00:24:14] That's great.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:24:15] And then after 1940, the regulations come in and it's like the chefs, the cooks at the Capitol building, you just can't whip up whatever you want. Now we're getting mushrooms from a certain place. So that's why the sightings went down. But you know, whenever they have sort of like special nights or they go to their own garden and they get up some mushrooms, you have the potential of another demon cat sign.

Jodi Miller: [00:24:37] Well, shrooms are very trendy right now. They're decriminalized a lot of places. I microdosing, so I get it. So I don't even know if my outdoor cats are real. I have no idea. I'm hallucinating all the time, I totally buy that theory for sure.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:24:54] So to be clear, they're not. They're not real. The demon cats are not real. It's just a hallucinate.

Jodi Miller: [00:24:57] Oh, just a small cat.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:24:59] Yeah, it's regular cats that get big when you're tripping on shrooms.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:25:01] How does it coincide with the big tragedies?

Dwayne Perkins: [00:25:04] Two things one, I think that's just sort of like random because stuff always happens and it's always linked to other things. But if the DC tragedies, then maybe whoever was at the at the wheel was also tripping on shrooms dropped the ball.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:25:18] I'm super excited about hearing Jodi's theory.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:25:20] I am as well.

Jodi Miller: [00:25:21] Well, first, before I get into my theory, I just want to point out something I'm not sure that everybody is aware of because I do know the history of a lot of the crazy cat stuff. But before this even happened in DC, in the UK, they had a lot of cats killing their rodents, farms, communities, cities. They would bring cats in. They would actually bring them in to help eliminate rodents and the rodent problem. And then, yes, Dwayne, they were like, Oh no, cats are actually the work of the devil and they belong to witches. So they got they killed the cats, they killed all those cats back in the UK, back in the, you know, what was it? The sixteen hundred seventy, anyway, one of the hundreds. And then guess what happened? The rats were running like rampant and they carried the Black Plague, and that's how the Black Plague started. That's the that is a true story. That is why the Black Plague spread as quickly as it did because they eliminated cats that were killing the rodents that were carrying it. And that was that's called karma. So FYI.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:26:14] Right?

Jodi Miller: [00:26:15] So it's a little bit of karma going on here to sprinkle that. But the truth is is that, look, there's definitely cats there. I approve. They probably have cats that roam around there and they love it. But here's the thing that giant cat, OK, here are these guards. They're obviously drinking. All they have to say is I see a demon cat and they get to go home. You know what the demon cat is? It's their wives and girlfriends dressed up in a big black cat costume because they want their man at home. Get your butt home. So they're like, Oh, you're working tonight, oh, I wanted you home. So then they get in that suit and the next thing they know there are husbands home. They're like, Oh my god, oh my God, I'm just terrified. And then they're like, Oh baby, let me comfort you. It's it's the wives and girlfriends God right now. They're like, they got together and they were like, Oh, have you noticed that they come home if they see Demon Cat? Well, now we get to get, yeah, I guess, to come home and take care of the seven kids that I popped out. That's what the demon cat is. It's just a really angry wife. Significant other, you know what I mean that wants their man at home. That's the best way to do it.

Jennifer Field: [00:27:14] That is so Funny.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:27:16] And back in those days to you as a man, you'd rather say I saw a demon cat. Then you say, I'm afraid of my wife.

Jodi Miller: [00:27:23] Yeah, exactly right.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:27:25] Right?

Jodi Miller: [00:27:25] And yes, and any guy that didn't go home was actually more afraid of his wife. So there you go. You know what I mean?

Dwayne Perkins: [00:27:29] I actually like that idea.

Jennifer Field: [00:27:31] I like it too,

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:27:32] Is dressing up as a cat, A cat thing.

Jodi Miller: [00:27:34] Well, there furries. I'm not a furry and but I've definitely worn cat costumes. You know what I mean for Halloween? A lot of women do it because it's an easy go to you just have to paint whiskers on, slap a couple of ears on, and then you're like, Oh I'm a cat, you know what I mean? It's like the easiest Halloween costume for adults that really don't want to dress up but get like ostracised because they haven't dressed up hey Jennifer why didn't you dress up today. You're like, Oh, no, I've got ears on. They're like, OK, you're cool. So but there are people that are furries that dress up in cat costumes, but I feel like these women were like, How can we scare the crap out of our men and get them home because they're just getting wasted on the job?

Dwayne Perkins: [00:28:09] So do you think they were? They would go down there and scare them or scare them from home?

Jodi Miller: [00:28:13] No, they go down there. I think they probably picked like, you know, Bertha, she's a tall woman, Helga. She's probably also tall woman, and I feel like they were like, You guys are really tall and hefty, getting this catsuit, they probably made it. And back then those costumes were like,

Dwayne Perkins: [00:28:25] Right,

Jodi Miller: [00:28:26] They put like a lot of hair on it and it was bigger. And maybe, maybe there's a couple of them, you know what I mean? So it looked like it was starting to get bigger and it was definitely a planned thing.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:28:35] So basically, it was like they were being a purposeful buzzkill because these guys there was nothing to do with the Capitol building but get sloshed.

Jodi Miller: [00:28:42] Yeah,

Dwayne Perkins: [00:28:42] Right. And they're like, These guys are down and having a ball.

Jodi Miller: [00:28:45] I'm taking care of the babies, but they came home and they sleep it off and then they're hung over. They still can't take care of the babies. I'm going to get my man home now.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:28:52] I like it.

Jodi Miller: [00:28:52] And the shrooms, I believe they're probably the shrooms too,

Dwayne Perkins: [00:28:55] Right?

Jodi Miller: [00:28:58] I mean, because once you start drinking, you're like, All right, I'll take these shrooms or whatever.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:29:01] Right, right? Because, yeah, you're hungry. And that's the thing. You know, you're drinking. You eat more of that cafeteria, Barly. Because you're trying to sort of like you don't want to get too drunk, you're trying to sort of modify, you know, it's like when people drink, they drink a glass of water. You're basically trying to manage your your drunkenness, you know,

Jodi Miller: [00:29:17] By the way. Can I also point out why is it called a demon cat? The cat never hurt anyone. The cat, really. All they saw was that a cat got bigger and jumps over their head. They're not even talking about like, you know, strange red eyes. Or, you know what I mean? Like scratching anyone. It's just an extra large cat, but they're like demon cat. Like, why is it a demon cat? Why can't it just be a cat?

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:29:37] It was the dogs that did it.

Jodi Miller: [00:29:38] Oh, you're right. It was probably the dog,

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:29:39] Obviously? All right. We're at the point of the show where we have to choose the official story, and this will become the official story for all of history. We can't do that lightly. We have to make the right choice so that everyone knows exactly what happened. Dwayne, what do you think? Which theory should we go with. 

Dwayne Perkins: [00:29:54] Once we flush Jennifer's out? That's kind of cool, right? Like that there's this portal like a stranger strange things kind of thing. Or is it Stranger Things? So I do like that. Actually, I like the The Mushroom one, and I really like Jodie's. But in terms of cinematically like which one could be, say, turned into a movie, you know, if you're going to take liberties and make a movie, explaining the demon cat. Actually, I think Jennifer's would work the best in that sense. But then Jodie's would work as a comedy, so I'm really torn on this one. I really am.

Jodi Miller: [00:30:23] Oh Koji's would work is like an animated, you know what I mean?

Dwayne Perkins: [00:30:26] That's true. That's true.

Jodi Miller: [00:30:28] No, they all work in yours would just work is like, you know, just a cool movie indie film. So actually, all four of us should just make a film.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:30:34] Right, right.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:30:36] Which was your favorite jodi?

Jodi Miller: [00:30:37] I am a huge fan of dogs versus cats. I mean, I've done a lot of jokes about it. I'm also a huge fan of parallel universes and other doorways, but I'm a bigger fan of shrooms. I love them. I got to go with the shrooms, like, right I'm doing it right now.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:30:53] All right, Jennifer, what do you think? What are you thinking?

Jennifer Field: [00:30:55] I like this idea. If we made a movie, which one would be the most fun parallel universe shroom soup. Helga and Bertha dressing up angry housewives or cats versus dogs showdown, biggie and Tupac. God, they're all so great out there. I can't decide. I want to meld them all.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:31:17] Yeah, I'm leaning toward Portal Door closing kind of thing. Usually, portals are open in modern times. I like when you combine portals with historic times because those people had no idea what was going on

Jodi Miller: [00:31:27] Compared to us, we know all about portals.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:31:30] Yes. Yeah. We. 

Jodi Miller: [00:31:32] Very whenever I like walk through a portal, I'm like, Oh God, here we are. A totally different universe.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:31:37] Right, right. This is not your dad's portal.

[00:31:40] My favorite story is Jodi's story, because I keep thinking that they're going to have sex in these costumes,

Jodi Miller: [00:31:43] And they probably are.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:31:45] I think that's going to be really fascinating. It sounds weird, but I want to watch that. I think not like as a Pornhub type thing, but just in general, I think it could be really interesting.

Jodi Miller: [00:31:54] Do you think, though on that note, that there is one security guard who has not come forward and he did actually have relations with Demon Cat, and he's just too embarrassed? I mean, do you think out of any of those stories, he doesn't want to talk about it, but it got it, got a little physical?

Jennifer Field: [00:32:09] That's got to be our story.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:32:14] Right, right? Probably because he was on the receiving end.

Jodi Miller: [00:32:18] Oh yeah. Well, I mean, if it's 10 by 10, then he's definitely on the receiving end.

Jennifer Field: [00:32:21] And they had some soup that night, too.

Jodi Miller: [00:32:23] And then he just told his friends he was in an alternate universe so that it never I'm not into bestiality, guys. I'm just saying.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:32:33] Right?

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:32:33] Ok, so it feels like we want to combine three stories about the portal that disappeared after World War Two for some reason. Then it was the wife's of the guards, but the guards were tripping out, mostly because of the soup from the chef. That works.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:32:48] It all works because the thing too, is that once something gets going, if the first guy saw so a cat because of the portal, then the wives would have been like, Oh, we can jump on this. So like, maybe the next three or four, they saw wives dressed up.

Jodi Miller: [00:33:03] Mm hmm.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:33:03] Then the next three or four, we're tripping on shrooms. You know, it just kept it going.

Jodi Miller: [00:33:09] These wives could have had, could have had a dog and they could have been at home crying. And their dog was like, Oh, I don't want to see my owner crying. I'm going to help her out. Creating a demon cat. And then they worked together.

Jennifer Field: [00:33:21] There we go. The dogs were involved, too.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:33:23] Nice. Nice, nice. And I like to think during the Capitol siege that the demon cat either scratched out all the the floor plans. You know, you walk into a building and it's like a little layout. So the demon cat either scratch that out and or just threw pheromones around so that people wouldn't know. And then once they got in, the demon cat confused them and they were like, Whoa, let's follow this black guy up these stairs, you know?

Jennifer Field: [00:33:46] So, oh my gosh, we got to look. We've got to look at those photos again.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:33:52] The demon cat is a patriot, is what I hear.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:33:54] Absolutely.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:33:55] Yeah.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:33:55] He's like, I can scare people in this building. Not you. 

Jodi Miller: [00:33:59] Also FYI that demon cats. The entire Monica Lewinsky Bill Clinton thing go down. That cat was totally Into that. 

Dwayne Perkins: [00:34:07] And that. Is the official story. We'll take another break, and when we return, we'll do a little improv.

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Dwayne Perkins: [00:35:11] This month, we're going to do a little improv. We basically have a wife who decides who's going to get a little inspiration to go and come down and be the demon cat. We have a security guard, we'll have a cook and maybe even something after that, another demon cat, a portal person. So basically, that's that sets it up. We begin with a wife slash demon slash furry with some inspiration.

Jodi Miller: [00:35:34] My husband is never home. He's just never, Oh, I'm just making these cat costumes for my overweight kids, and he's not home and I'm doing it myself. And there's like only like one thing on the radio. I don't even can't even listen to it. Little orphan nanny and I feel like an orphan.

Jennifer Field: [00:35:52] [Fake barking]

Jodi Miller: [00:35:55] What did you say rover?

Jennifer Field: [00:35:57] [Fake Barking]

Jodi Miller: [00:35:57] What was that?

Jennifer Field: [00:35:59] [Fake Barking] 

Jodi Miller: [00:35:59] What? The baby's in the bathtub? No, the baby's. 

Jennifer Field: [00:36:02] [Fake Barking].

Jodi Miller: [00:36:04] Oh the capital. I should go to the capital. I should put the suit on.

Jennifer Field: [00:36:14] [Fake barking]

Jodi Miller: [00:36:14] Oh my god, this is a great idea. Oh my God. And then I'll scare him so badly he'll want to come home. And I'll also help people be scared of cats for the rest of their lives. My god you're a brilliant dog. I can't believe we almost let you die in the shelter.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:36:34] Meanwhile, at the Capitol, this is the best job I ever had

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:36:38] Mr. security guard. I made some soup. There's definitely no wild mushrooms, crazy mushrooms in here. Don't worry, there's nothing hallucinogenic.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:36:45] Ok, OK, because I'm I'm getting pretty drunk over here, and I don't like to do shrooms and alcohol at the same time, buddy. You get me. Oh, hmm. Yet this soup is a one you're the best, this is oh, what a great job. Can you believe I got hooked up with this job? I do nothing. I get drunk. I come here. You make me soup. This is this is the cat's meow.

Jennifer Field: [00:37:07] [Cat Meows]

Dwayne Perkins: [00:37:07] Oh my god.

Jennifer Field: [00:37:09] [Cat Meows]

Dwayne Perkins: [00:37:09] What the hell is that, what a pretty little cat. Wait, wait, why is it? Why is it getting bigger? Why is it? It's coming?

Jennifer Field: [00:37:18] [Cat Meows]

Dwayne Perkins: [00:37:18] Oh, my God. I know that's I know that scream. It's like it's like, you're possessed by my wife.

Jennifer Field: [00:37:27] [Cat meows]

Dwayne Perkins: [00:37:27] Oh my god. Where did you put this? What is it? What are these mushrooms doing to me? Well, I got to go home. I got. I got to go home. Ok. Don't trip? Don't trip just get just get your cutlass and drive home. Ok. I got I got. I'm sorry. Tell the boss I had to hit it. I was. I was so looking forward to tonight to I was going to get drunk. I'm just going to go home and be with my wife and tell them the demon cat came again. Ok, don't worry, no one's ever going to attack the Capitol, so we're fine. 

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:38:02] And scene.

Jodi Miller: [00:38:03] Yay.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:38:04] Good job, guys.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:38:07] Thank you, Jody. Thank you for coming on with us and please tell us where people can follow you.

Jodi Miller: [00:38:11] I am Jodi Miller Comic Jodi I Miller comic across the board so you can follow me there. And yeah. Tune in to. I have a podcast called Don't Call Me Ma'am, but I also have a brand new podcast called White Knuckling Parenthood that will be coming out soon. Because that is what I'm doing. Everyone white knuckling parenthood. So keep your eyes peeled for that. I might have a demon cat on that. I don't know.

Jennifer Field: [00:38:39] Sounds Awesome. Thank you, Jody, and thank you all for listening. Shout out to all the unofficial official story podcast listeners. There are a million podcasts out there, so we're honored that you've chosen ours to listen to.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:38:51] Please check out our website. Unofficial official story dot com for our show or to hear our past episodes.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:38:55] Be sure to have come back next month where We will be answering the question Did Blues legend Robert Johnson make a deal with the devil?

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:39:03] Obviously, he did.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:39:04] I think so. I think so. Probably. 

Jodi Miller: [00:39:05] Made a deal with the Demon Cat.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:39:10] Demon Cat needs to appear in this next episode. All right, guys. Bye. Thank you.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:39:15] Cheers. Good luck storming the Capitol.