S4E7 Where did the vanishing hotel go with Jonesy

Dwayne Perkins: [00:00:00] If you could send us back in time, when would you send us to and why? It could be something fun or something evil. Your choice.

Cat Alvarado: [00:00:06] Okay, so. I would send all three of you guys back to the grassy knoll in 1960. Whatever. When Kennedy got shot. And that would be the year. And I would place you guys in strategic locations.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:00:17] Dwayne would be killed because he's black,

Dwayne Perkins: [00:00:19] Right

Jonesy: [00:00:19] You're gonna put a black man on the grassy knoll the day that Kennedy was shot. What do you?

Cat Alvarado: [00:00:24] Put him in the library so that he could observe.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:00:28] A shoeshine kid

Jonesy: [00:00:30] Yeah. Then you're okay?

Dwayne Perkins: [00:00:31] Yeah. Yeah,

Jonesy: [00:00:32] Yeah.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:00:33] Like that doubles as a gun kind of thing.

Jonesy: [00:00:35] I love that you have the faith in us that we could solve it.

Cat Alvarado: [00:00:38] I think you could.

Jonesy: [00:00:38] Yeah, we could totally solve it.

Cat Alvarado: [00:00:40] I think we would find,

Jonesy: [00:00:40] Meanwhile, like, no one can solve it. Like, there's five shooters up in the clouds. No one. Like all these theories, no one can figure it out. But you think we could do it? All right. Like,

Cat Alvarado: [00:00:48] First we would watch a documentary on it. We know exactly where to stand. I'd give you guys a diagram and be like, you go. Here you go, here. You go there. And then we'll take cameras. Because you. 

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:00:57] Think it's the Jap spy.

Cat Alvarado: [00:00:58] Yeah. Y'all come back and. It's a whole new. 

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:01:01] Chinese spy. They'll say Chinese spy.

Cat Alvarado: [00:01:02] Okay, what if we've got a mandela effect situation? And that's exactly what's been going on. People keep going back in time to see what happened to JFK. Altering the timeline. And now there's 73.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:01:13] Okay, so I would say it's going to be the only person that can go back in time is Jonesy. Because, you know, you're a woman Cat. For the most part in history, women haven't been seen as very, uh, like, you can't really do much.

Jonesy: [00:01:23] You can't even look at the president, look away as he drives by.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:01:27] And Dwayne is black, so obviously that's not going to be good. And Asians tend not to be good in America, so Jonesy is the only one that would be okay in the past.

Jonesy: [00:01:35] Yeah, but I can't I don't want to be up close to see one of my Boston brothers get blown away in front of me like that. Come on now, you can't do that.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:01:42] What about you? Dwayne. What would you do? Or when would you go back?

Dwayne Perkins: [00:01:44] I have, so. 

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:01:45] Who would you send back?

Dwayne Perkins: [00:01:46] Only one person or.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:01:47] I mean, no, no. Cat sent everybody, so I.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:01:49] Would, I would. 

Cat Alvarado: [00:01:50] I need a team for this.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:01:51] I would have us all go back.

Cat Alvarado: [00:01:52] Okay

Dwayne Perkins: [00:01:53] okay. First I was going to do a podcast in, like, a prehistoric caveman setting and just the caveman looking at like, oh, and then we just, hey, man, do you mind? And then, you know. Shoot anyone who gives us trouble. But I think instead I'd go back to, uh, August 11th, 1973. I believe it was a bit, uh, birth of hip hop. So that party that Kool Herc threw the back to school party.

Jonesy: [00:02:15] Tell us about this party.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:02:16] So that's kind of like the unofficial. 

Jonesy: [00:02:18] Beginning of hip hop.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:02:19] Of hip hop? Yeah.

Jonesy: [00:02:20] 73. 

Dwayne Perkins: [00:02:21] Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I think it's going to be 71. I think it's 73. So Kool Herc threw a party is a back to school flyer thing. And, um, he was the guy who was really instrumental in two turntables playing the breakbeats. I mean, he was he didn't have a good blending technique. I think, um, Grandmaster Flash developed that. But, you know, he'd play like the the break over and over again, which is where break dancing comes from. Right? And break beat. It was a breakbeat, so songs would have like a regular song. Then it all the music would stop and it would just be the drum and it'd be like a they call it the get down or the break. Anyway, I'd go back to that, enjoy the party, but also if they had microphones or bring a mic, I'd I'd rap.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:03:01] So you'd be the founder of rap. 

Jonesy: [00:03:02] And they would be blown away. They'd never seen that.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:03:04] Like one of Rakim's, right? So while they were like, because back then they said, I'm like, bruh. He's like, yeah, all the people in the place,

Jonesy: [00:03:16] Break them up, break them up, break them up, break down.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:03:19] Come on.

Jonesy: [00:03:19] Yeah. Yeah. 

Dwayne Perkins: [00:03:19] know, and I and I just come on. I came through the door. I said it before and they were like, what is this?

Jonesy: [00:03:27] My goodness. Yeah. I ain't no joke. I used to let the mic smoke. They're like, whoa. Blown up. Oh, yeah. That would blow minds. And then, you know,

Dwayne Perkins: [00:03:35] And then I would say something like, like basically like back to the future. You guys are not ready for that. But you will be you can talk about it in perpetuity,

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:03:43] Jonesy. Well, who would you send back and why?

Jonesy: [00:03:45] Well, I would send myself back and, like Dwayne, this is out of ego. I'm gonna be a little selfish. I'm just gonna go back to the winter of 2003, Jamaica Plain, Massachusetts, when I screwed up a threesome. I mean, I dropped the ball like so.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:04:10] Very good use of a time machine.

Jonesy: [00:04:12] Yeah, man. I just didn't pick up on the signals until. I mean, it was really. 

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:04:18] Two women, right?

Jonesy: [00:04:19] Yeah. Of course. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:04:21] Thank you for clarifying that.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:04:23] Because, you know, if it's like two dudes or something, you don't need to do that.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:04:27] Thank you for clarif.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:04:27] I mean there's nothing wrong with it though, but. Yeah.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:04:29] No, I had this guy going on and on about this book once that pick up artist book or whatever.

Jonesy: [00:04:33] Oh, yeah,

Dwayne Perkins: [00:04:33] One of those books. Yeah. I was like, I don't need that. And he's like, it really works. And then he was like, this book got me my first threesome. And then I was like, go on.

Jonesy: [00:04:43] So there's a threesome chapter.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:04:46] And then he said, my second threesome. And so now I'm like, finally engaged because I've never needed a book. Right? But then we were at a conference like. So he's telling me about it for like a whole day, and then later on in the day, or maybe even the next day, he's somehow he lets it drop that this threesome was two guys. And I was like, yeah, you have to read a book to run a train. That's a train. Get out of here, man. You just. You just came upon a girl that wanted that, like. Yeah, get out of here. I never read that book. It was awful. Advocate for that book.

Jonesy: [00:05:20] He was a victim that night. That wasn't a that wasn't.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:05:23] Those two set him up. 

Jonesy: [00:05:23] Totally. Come on man. He did. He didn't try for that. I mean, that's. 

Dwayne Perkins: [00:05:33] The devil's threesome. And I'm sure maybe it takes some skill, but he was acting like he had, like, you know, redefined the wheel, or, you know, he had done something really groundbreaking. And I'm like,

Jonesy: [00:05:43] Yeah. This is what he did. He didn't put the napkin over his drink when he went to the bathroom. And then the the couple, like, he got dosed. Next thing you know, that's what happened. Come on.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:05:56] It was just him and some dude. And then, like, there's cleaning lady, and he just sort of. She was right. Yeah. Yeah. Which is. Which is, like Koji said earlier, it's all fine.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:06:05] Yeah.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:06:05] It's just that I don't need to read a book for that. Yeah.

Jonesy: [00:06:08] Yeah.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:06:09] But but that's great. Jp licks is what I'm going to call that segment.

Jonesy: [00:06:12] Yeah. Jp licks. Yeah.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:06:13] That's an ice cream place in Jamaica Plain. So. Oh. It's in all over Boston. But. Yeah.

Jonesy: [00:06:17] Yeah. So, yeah. You know, I think about that night, you know, often. So I need to. You don't need therapy. If you have a time machine, you can just go back and deal with the problem in your early life.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:06:28] The other thing, too, is that those kind of moments I've had, those situations I had one where I was wingmanning for a dude. I was just his wingman and the other girl wasn't that into me. But we we had a good rapport. And then like a year later, the girl that he was going for, nothing happened with them. We went back to that place. It was the whole thing, right? She was like, I liked you. And I was like.

Jonesy: [00:06:47] And you were a wingman and. 

Dwayne Perkins: [00:06:48] A wingman. And. Yeah. So but I always those moments I don't lose sleep at all because I think it's the universe saving me from myself. Like, who knows what else could have happened? Like, the threesome could have went bad. It could have, like.

Jonesy: [00:07:00] Oh, you're saying I shouldn't, I shouldn't, uh.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:07:02] Oh, yeah. You could have.

Cat Alvarado: [00:07:03] Gotten the clap.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:07:04] You could have got the clap. It could have. It could have went left. You know what I mean? You could, you could,

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:07:09] Coul have got your dick cut off.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:07:10] You could. Yeah. Like anything bad could have happened,

Cat Alvarado: [00:07:12] Could have been a coven. And they would have sacrificed you.

Jonesy: [00:07:15] Yeah,

Dwayne Perkins: [00:07:15] Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah, it could have been that. I guess it could have been anything. So. 

Cat Alvarado: [00:07:19] Look. Women be witches.

Jonesy: [00:07:21] Yeah, I wasn't thinking of that, but. Yeah, you're right. I guess it could have been anything. 

Cat Alvarado: [00:07:29] Welcome, welcome, welcome. This is season four, episode six of the award winning unofficial official story. I'm Cat.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:07:36] I'm Koji,

Dwayne Perkins: [00:07:37] And I'm Dwayne. This is where we tell you the official story. We look at the paranormal conspiracies, unexplained phenomena, cryptids, and true crime. And by the end, we'll tell you what. Really? Okay. Maybe happened.

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Koji Steven Sakai: [00:08:06] In October, we celebrate the 45th anniversary of The Vanishing Hotel, and we're asking a very important question where did The Vanishing Hotel go? First, let's introduce our guest. Jonesy, who has been here three times. He's actually the only guest on our show's history that has come back three times. The first one was. Oh, it was about. 

Dwayne Perkins: [00:08:23] JP Cooper, right?

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:08:24] Yeah. Jp Cooper. Yeah. Cooper. And then the second one was. Which one was the second one?

Jonesy: [00:08:28] Oh, it was the celebrities who were lizard people.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:08:32] Oh yes.

Jonesy: [00:08:33] Which celebrities are lizard people?

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:08:34] Yeah.

Jonesy: [00:08:35] D.b. Cooper was the. 

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:08:36] D.B. Cooper. That's right.

Jonesy: [00:08:37] That was phenomenal.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:08:38] Yeah. And then this one is the Vanishing Hotel. How have how have you been?

Jonesy: [00:08:41] You've been very good. It's an honor to be here a third time. I don't know why you keep having me come back here,

Cat Alvarado: [00:08:45] Cause you're the best one.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:08:48] You live the closest as well.

Jonesy: [00:08:50] That's right, I live, I do live, I do live 12 minutes away, so it's pretty. What guest had to cancel last minute? I'd like to know.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:08:58] No we booked you, like, two weeks ago.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:09:00] Yeah,

Jonesy: [00:09:00] Yeah. No, I know you did. I was just I was just joking around. Yeah. You sent me a list of subjects to choose, and I had never. I was familiar with about half of them. I had never heard about this vanishing hotel one. So I like to learn about new paranormal and weird stories. So I was like, let's, let's do this one. I want to learn something.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:09:16] And how's your podcast going?

Jonesy: [00:09:17] The podcast is going very, very well. I just got an intern, so.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:09:20] Wow.

Cat Alvarado: [00:09:20] Nice.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:09:20] Yeah. Very nice.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:09:21] What's the podcast?

Jonesy: [00:09:22] Weird AF news. Do I do weird news from around the world? Five days a week and on Friday I only do weird news from Florida.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:09:30] Nice.

Jonesy: [00:09:31] Yeah. I'll recorded by one guy in a closet.

Cat Alvarado: [00:09:33] So you know my ex-boyfriend. Sorry. You get it?

Jonesy: [00:09:37] Someone's making all that noise.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:09:40] Gay. I didn't know he was from Florida or Gay. Um. This is the one. The one you lived with.

Cat Alvarado: [00:09:46] Oh, yeah.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:09:47] Okay. Okay. No names? No names,

Cat Alvarado: [00:09:49] No names, no names. You don't need to out anybody.

Jonesy: [00:09:51] I can't help but think you just keep having me back here. Because I'm sort of an expert on weird by now.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:09:56] That's true. Yeah, I think so.

Jonesy: [00:09:57] I mean, no one knows more weird news than me. Probably, you know. 18. 1850 episodes of my podcast.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:10:03] That's crazy.

Jonesy: [00:10:04] That's a lot of weird.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:10:05] Because you're a daily show, right?

Jonesy: [00:10:06] Yeah, because it's five days a week.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:10:07] Damn. That's crazy.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:10:08] Outrageous. That's really dope.

Jonesy: [00:10:09] Yeah, it's pretty crazy. I'm probably insane for doing it. Yeah, you keep doing it. Yeah, it's pretty crazy.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:10:14] This is a monthly show, and that's already enough for me.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:10:15] You could do it every other day. But, you know,

Jonesy: [00:10:17] I probably could.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:10:18] No ones gonna look at you crazy.

Jonesy: [00:10:20] Yeah. No, you're probably right.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:10:22] Yeah, I have a joke about, uh, in movies, they always. They always defuse the bomb with one second left. I'm like, you know, you're still a hero if you do it with, like, 20 seconds. Like, everyone's still appreciative. Don't run this thing down to the end. And kudos to these mad scientist villains who keep putting timers on bombs. I appreciate that, because.

Jonesy: [00:10:40] Giving us a chance.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:10:41] Yeah, right.

Jonesy: [00:10:42] Yeah. For sure.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:10:43] How's your stand up going?

Jonesy: [00:10:44] Well, the stand up is going great, working a lot and getting funnier and funnier and enjoying it still. And, you know, it's nice to find something that you love and you never want to stop, so I'm pretty blessed.

Cat Alvarado: [00:10:55] Today we're talking about time slips, where for some reason, people jump into the past or into the future. Wait, did I jump ahead?

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:11:02] Yeah, you jumped ahead.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:11:03] That's okay. We just missed one line. Well, let's get the story straight once and for all, shall we?

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:11:07] Yes. Let's do it.

Cat Alvarado: [00:11:08] All right. We're talking about time slips, where for some reason, people jump into the past or the future.

Jonesy: [00:11:15] Let's do the time slip again.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:11:20] That was AI.

Cat Alvarado: [00:11:23] What a great singer. Anyways, one of the most famous cases is from October 1979. Two couples. Jeff and Pauline Simpson. And Len and Cynthia. Gisborne.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:11:36] Gisborne. Maybe.

Cat Alvarado: [00:11:36] Gisborne.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:11:37] Jizzbin. Jizzbin. Funny, though.

Jonesy: [00:11:40] Well, you know, they called her jizz bin. Oh, that's not what you want to be called.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:11:44] If she if she lived in Boston or New York, that's definitely what they called her.

Jonesy: [00:11:48] Oh, no.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:11:48] She was in England. I don't know if they had that.

Cat Alvarado: [00:11:51] Oh, God. Poor Cynthia. Jizzbin.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:11:54] No, it would be probably Len.

Cat Alvarado: [00:11:56] Oh, Len. Jizzbin.

Jonesy: [00:11:58] It's better than jizz dumpster.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:11:59] Yeah.

Jonesy: [00:12:01] So sorry.

Cat Alvarado: [00:12:02] All right, all right. So the jizz bins were on a road trip through France to Spain, and they decided to stop somewhere on the way and saw a cobblestone road and flyers for a circus. So, of course, they went down the road and found a hotel.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:12:18] That was the weirdest part of the story. Is the circus part?

Dwayne Perkins: [00:12:20] Yeah,

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:12:21] Like. So you saw a flyer for a circus and you're like, okay, let's go that way. I mean, is that what?

Cat Alvarado: [00:12:25] That sounds fun. You're on a vacation. You're like, let's have an adventure.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:12:28] This is exactly why I don't drive through Mississippi. I don't want to just drive. And it's like 1950. 1948.

Cat Alvarado: [00:12:39] Accidentally.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:12:40] That's a that's a fancy car you got there, boy. What's that? Japanese.

Jonesy: [00:12:47] Hey. Hey, we're having a fire out in the field. You want to come with us?

Cat Alvarado: [00:12:52] Oh, no.

Jonesy: [00:12:52] You like s'mores? No no no no no no.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:12:56] Yeah yeah yeah,

Jonesy: [00:12:57] The circus stuff is weird. And then, like, from what I've read, like, it was just a it was just like decoration for the story. Like, it had nothing really to do with the hotel, did it?

Cat Alvarado: [00:13:07] Well, there is something. There is something because. Well, we'll get there, it doesn't serve a Purpose. 

Dwayne Perkins: [00:13:12] In the 1970s. Not as much as it was. You know what I mean?

Jonesy: [00:13:16] So I guess the point of the then the point of the Flyers is to show like, oh, we're back in time. When circuses were all the time, were everywhere.

Cat Alvarado: [00:13:21] It's how they knew that they came back to the same place.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:13:24] I see.

Jonesy: [00:13:25] Got it. Got it. The circus. It's a landmark.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:13:27] Yeah, but this wasn't a normal hotel. The hotel had no elevators or phones. The locks were wooded catches. The plumbing was antiquated. Antiquated. Antiquated.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:13:37] Antiquated.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:13:37] Antiquated. There you go.

Jonesy: [00:13:38] The guy's a writer. The windows were antiquated. So what the  hell?

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:13:44] The windows were just wood shutters instead of glass, etc. just despite all this weirdness, they stayed the night. And the next morning at breakfast, they saw a woman in an old fashioned dress dress. One of the women, Pauline, said it was strange. It looked like she had just come in from a ball, but it was seven in the morning. I couldn't take my eyes off her. They then went over to two French policemen in old style uniforms, and asked which autoroute would be the best to drive in to Spain, and the policeman appeared to be confused about what an autoroute was, and when they checked out, the bill was a 10th of what they expected. Oh.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:14:16] Very nice.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:14:17] That's weird.

Jonesy: [00:14:17] Yeah. I mean, if you if you have brunch in Silverlake, there's going to be some bitch in a dress.

Cat Alvarado: [00:14:23] I was about to say, like, there are some outfits that look very 1776. 

Dwayne Perkins: [00:14:28] Facts I was in a Starbucks, the one here in Pasadena. There's several, but the one in South Pass on Fair Oaks And this dude came in, happened to be a black dude to like the most doing literally the most handlebar mustache, big ass handlebar mustache, tight clothes. He looked like. Like he was like. And the group Mumford and Sons. Like the one you don't see that often or something. And he had pointy leather shoes. Yeah. Tight clothes, suspenders. And one of those bikes with the big wheel in the front and the little wheel in the back.

Jonesy: [00:15:00] No, not the bike. He had the bike.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:15:02] Because, you know, those Bikes are before chains. Because before chains. You need the big wheel in the front. Because that made the little wheel go more. It's like like the kind of thing. So yeah. So he had the I mean the front wheel came up to my shoulder. Okay. And I just was like, I'm not going to look at you, bro. I'm not going to say anything because that's what you want.

Jonesy: [00:15:21] Yep.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:15:22] You're going to get no attention. I'm like, I'm not gonna I'm gonna act like this is normal. You know what? The guy with you. Wait, were you here before? Was the other guy with the big wheel?

Jonesy: [00:15:33] Yeah. Let him know there's another one in the neighborhood that'll drive him crazy.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:15:36] Nothing for me.

Jonesy: [00:15:37] Yeah.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:15:39] Just like there's a guy in San Fran who actually emailed me because I wrote a blog about him. He sits on a street he used to visit years ago, and he with a typewriter, he would sit in the middle of the street sidewalk with a typewriter, typing again. You get nothing from me, dude. Nothing. So anyway, you're right. Like, is that a time warp or is that people trying to get attention?

Cat Alvarado: [00:15:56] Funny. Like people who like steampunk for no reason?

Dwayne Perkins: [00:15:59] Yeah.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:15:59] It's weird.

Cat Alvarado: [00:15:59] It was never even a thing.

Jonesy: [00:16:00] Oh, I think there's a reason, right? It's drugs.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:16:03] Drugs?

Cat Alvarado: [00:16:04] Okay.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:16:05] But that is pretty sweet that the bill was cheaper.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:16:07] Yeah,

Dwayne Perkins: [00:16:07] That's not bad.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:16:08] Yeah,

Dwayne Perkins: [00:16:09] Yeah,

Jonesy: [00:16:09] Yeah. That happened to me in Vietnam recently, I got. Oh, this is a 10th of the bill that I usually get. Unbelievable.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:16:15] I have a joke about that.

Jonesy: [00:16:16] Keep eating there. You got a joke for everything?

Dwayne Perkins: [00:16:17] Well, my joke. I go, you can't complain anymore, you know, because people always say, first world problem. Dwayne first world problem. Then you have to back it up. You're like, no, you're right. Gratitude. Blessings. Gratitude. But my thing is, I'm appreciative. First world problem. But I'm also paying first world prices. You know what I mean. Like, charge me third world prices. You won't hear a peep.

Jonesy: [00:16:35] Yeah,

Dwayne Perkins: [00:16:35] I won't complain. Like I've never been in Thailand and paid like a dollar for pad Thai. I'm like, I want a two limes, actually.

Jonesy: [00:16:43] Right, right. It's just. It's just like.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:16:45] It's a dollar pad Thai. Relax. You know what I mean?

Jonesy: [00:16:47] Come on, I don't even. I ignore the bad service. Even. 

Dwayne Perkins: [00:16:49] Back to this story. They continued their trip to Spain, but on the way back, they wanted to stay in the hotel again. But when they went to look for it, they could not find it. It had seemingly vanished.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:17:00] Thus the name, by the way.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:17:01] Yes. 

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:17:01] Yeah.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:17:02] Uh, and by the and by the way, the some of the research, apparently this hotel, the beds didn't have pillows.

Cat Alvarado: [00:17:08] Yeah, I saw it.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:17:09] So I guess they went back for the cheap price because, I mean, no pillows.

Jonesy: [00:17:13] Yeah. Why would you go back to a hotel that had no pillows?

Dwayne Perkins: [00:17:15] I've been able to rough it, but no pillows. I can't, I mean, I can roll my shirt up, I guess, but there's no way I'm going back to a place.

Cat Alvarado: [00:17:20] They probably ran out of money. Yeah. They're like, this place is cheap. Let's go there.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:17:23] Unless they brought pillows on the way back.

Cat Alvarado: [00:17:25] True.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:17:26] And to make things even weirder, when they develop the pictures they took while at the hotel, They were all missing. They even underwent hypnosis, but nothing came up. There have been other examples of time slips. One of the other famous ones occurred in 1901, when Charlotte Anne Moberly and Eleanor Jourdain went to the Palace of Versailles and claimed to have seen the long dead Marie Antoinette.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:17:48] So there's actually a lot of stories about time slips, like one of the common ones is that you're driving and then like there's like a roadhouse, bar, restaurant, and they pull over and they go in and it's like, it's not like 100 years ago, but it's like older. And you go in and everything's kind of older and they don't know what's going on, and then they eat or drink or whatever, and then they leave and then they on the way back, they come back. It's been like abandoned for like 50 years or something.

Cat Alvarado: [00:18:13] I just heard a story like that about some people who were escaping a hurricane. I want to say it was Katrina, and like someone took them in because they couldn't find a place to stay. And it was a very nice old couple. And and they stayed the night and then they went on to wherever they were going. And on the way back home, they wanted to stop by and give them a gift. They get to the house, it's been abandoned, and they're like, oh yeah, nobody's lived here in years.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:18:35] Although that's very similar to the, uh, there's a third man. It's called the Third Man. Have you ever heard of that, Jonesy?

Jonesy: [00:18:40] The third man?

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:18:40] Yeah. Um, so on a lot of times, like in, like, Everest or.

Jonesy: [00:18:44] Oh, third man syndrome.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:18:45] Yeah. Where, like, a lot of times, like, you're about to die.

Jonesy: [00:18:47] It's like a messenger.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:18:48] Yeah,

Jonesy: [00:18:48] Like as you're about to die.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:18:49] And then people are like, keep going. You only have, like, a mile left, and then they like. And then they finally get to the place and they're like, oh, who's that guy talking to me? I want to thank him. And then they're like, there's nobody else. There's just me and you.

Jonesy: [00:18:59] Yeah.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:19:00] It happens. It happened in the movie gravity, when one of the characters came back because, you know, she's lost in space.

Cat Alvarado: [00:19:05] Oh, I haven't seen it.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:19:06] Oh, okay. Listen, people love it. I didn't love it. Um, only because at some point, maybe you should die. You know what I mean? Like, there's only so much turmoil you can really overcome when it's like, you know, the universe seems to be really against you on this one, so. And you're in the universe, so it even makes even more sense. But, uh, yeah, that happened in that that happens in movies a lot. So people will, um, visions of someone who's not there.

Jonesy: [00:19:31] There's like a, you know, there's like a we should, like, draw a line between, like, there's time slip and then like there's ghosts. Like, if you see, you know, that's kind of a spirit or a ghost. I wouldn't say like. 

Dwayne Perkins: [00:19:41] That's true.

Jonesy: [00:19:42] I wouldn't necessarily call that a time slip,

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:19:44] Or There's a lot of stories also of like, you're driving through a town and then you stop the light all of a sudden, like, everything around you is like 1950s. You're like, what the hell is happening?

Dwayne Perkins: [00:19:54] Yeah, they said, it happens. There's a part of London where that happens a lot,

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:19:56] And then You keep going, and then it's like normal again, and you're just like, what the hell? You know, or you see, like, a lot of times it's a ghost, too. Like, you see somebody walking and like, they just walk past you and you think it's a ghost, but it's actually like, they think it's a time slip, not a ghost. I don't know.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:20:08] In Brooklyn, there are areas where you can go back to like mid 90s. You just, you know, mainly Italian neighborhoods. And you go in and everyone's wearing chess King and you're like, oh, wow. This is, this is 93 again. I'm just like, yeah. And cigarettes up here. You know what I mean?

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:20:26] Well, I think Trump wants to bring it back to, like, the 1940s or something.

Jonesy: [00:20:29] Well, yeah.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:20:30] Yeah.

Jonesy: [00:20:32] It's like, uh, it seems to be the goal of some speakeasies is to kind of create a time slip experience for you. Like some speakeasy speakeasies are like, no, this is supposed to be a, you know, this is supposed to be a diner from 1930 or whatever. They have, like, themes for these speakeasies, which is it's a really cool experience. I mean, slipping into time and that's kind of it's kind of cool.

Cat Alvarado: [00:20:53] So you ever go to Fry's Electronics and it's like Alice in Wonderland. That's pretty cool.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:20:58] I don't think They have that anymore.

Cat Alvarado: [00:20:59] It's like a speakeasy. But RadioShack.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:21:02] Fry's and RadioShack, they were both. We're gonna miss those.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:21:05] There used to be a Dvd store in South Pasadena, and we used to walk around.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:21:08] It finally closed?

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:21:09] No, no, now it's in Highland Park. They moved to Highland Park.

Cat Alvarado: [00:21:11] Did they make it look Cinderella?

Dwayne Perkins: [00:21:13] Videotech?

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:21:13] Yeah, yeah. Video tech.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:21:15] I'm a member.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:21:15] And I remember, like, walking around with my son and being like, this is like the 1990s. Just let you know this is like, this is like Blockbuster Video. And then you had to explain what Blockbuster video is. And he had to explain like videos in general. And I explained, like, what if they didn't have the movie and had like had to get something else I didn't want to watch. And, you know, you just like it was like a whole thing. He's like, why can't you just stream it? I'm like, yeah, never mind. It's like too much work.

Cat Alvarado: [00:21:37] The internet didn't work as well yet.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:21:40] Yeah, well, it didn't work at all at that time.

Cat Alvarado: [00:21:42] It didn't exist. So. Okay, so what do we think happened, though? Had these two couples time slipped? Some people questioned the legitimacy of the story, as they should. And they ask, why didn't people freak out when the couple pulled up in a modern automobile? Or why didn't anyone say anything about their modern clothing? And how could they pay with modern money or credit cards?

Dwayne Perkins: [00:22:05] Well, it was the 70s, but you could pay with money. Well, I think the clothes is easy because they just they just dress funny.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:22:12] But the car was always the car. The car is. Yeah.

Cat Alvarado: [00:22:15] Because they could be like, oh, you're foreigners. So that's why you're. 

Dwayne Perkins: [00:22:17] The first time I saw that Tesla truck thingy. I'm sorry. I don't like it at all.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:22:23] No. It's terrible.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:22:23] Yeah. First time I saw that, I was like, Is Arnold Schwarzenegger about to come out and kill me? Where's Sarah Connor? I don't want to get too far away from her as possible, but, um.

Jonesy: [00:22:33] Yeah,

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:22:33] But the. Yeah. The car. You can't really explain. 

Dwayne Perkins: [00:22:35] The car You can't explain. And the money. But the money is kind of close. If they're France, that would have been a Frank. It depends on how much the money changed.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:22:42] Yeah,

Dwayne Perkins: [00:22:42] Because I never look at the date.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:22:43] Well, now it would. It wouldn't work because everyone has credit cards. Although here's a pet peeve of mine. Just on a side note, stores that don't use that don't accept cash anymore. I actually had a long conversation with this, this lady at this restaurant where I explained that it was actually illegal not to accept US currency in America. And. 

Jonesy: [00:22:58] That's true, right?

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:22:59] It is true. Yeah. You have to accept.

Jonesy: [00:23:00] You have to accept it. Correct.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:23:01] And that like, they're like, oh we don't. I was like, well, just as I mean, I'm gonna pay my credit card. It's fine. But just know it's illegal.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:23:08] You know, it's Like the first step of undermining the currency because then you can switch to Bitcoin and then now it's not even.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:23:13] Yeah. It's like in America it's current American currency is supposed to be accepted everywhere. That's part of the thing.

Jonesy: [00:23:19] It used to be you had to accept two goats and a chicken.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:23:22] Yeah, exactly.

Jonesy: [00:23:23] You have to accept fowl. You have to accept farm animals for purchase.

Cat Alvarado: [00:23:28] Also children.

Jonesy: [00:23:29] Children too?

Cat Alvarado: [00:23:30] Yeah, they're part of barter.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:23:31] All right. People have attempted to explain these time slips. We found a site we'll link in our show notes that gave a few theories. The first, it's a hallucination caused by hunger, fear, excitement, tiredness, etc.. That's the stretch, I think. The second is a confirmation bias. You see a lady dressed up in old clothes and you want to believe it's a time slip instead of just maybe cosplay, which we talked about a little bit.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:23:49] Doesn't explain it going back though.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:23:50] Yeah, true. The third theory is that people are just in an altered state of consciousness. Think of the moment right before you wake up or fall asleep. Or finally, it might have been something to do with electromagnetic fields that are messing with people's brains.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:24:02] Well, it's Time to put on our thinking caps. When we return, we'll settle this once and for all and figure out what really maybe happened. Now that we've reviewed the evidence, let's give our theories.

Cat Alvarado: [00:24:18] I can go first. I think that they are swingers.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:24:24] Okay. Why?

Cat Alvarado: [00:24:26] Her last name is Jizz Bin. Okay, but aside from that, I'm just gonna make it a fun theory that they're swingers and that there is so busy being swingers that they were not paying attention to everything going on around them. They were just like on drugs and stuff. And so they didn't even realize, like where, what street they actually turned on. So when they came back, they turned on a completely different street because their brains are just all full of like, sex hormones and shit.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:24:57] So they basically just didn't go back to the same place.

Cat Alvarado: [00:25:00] Yeah, they just were having orgies all weekend. This entire freaking trip. You think they're paying attention to where they're going? No. That's my theory.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:25:08] I like that theory because also in that one, maybe one guy was sort of getting some sort of sexual act performed on him while he drove.

Cat Alvarado: [00:25:16] Maybe. 

Dwayne Perkins: [00:25:16] You could pick which act.

Cat Alvarado: [00:25:18] Okay. Actually,

Dwayne Perkins: [00:25:19] Yes.

Cat Alvarado: [00:25:19] My other theory is. It's okay. My real. It's the Mandela effect. Also, they're swingers, but it's the Mandela Effect.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:25:25] Which is.

Cat Alvarado: [00:25:25] Which is that which is kind of time slip theory that when people time travel and they go back and they change something, it changes the, the chain of events. And so people have their memories altered. And then you get different people who remember different things, like Berenstain Bears, Bernstein Bears.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:25:44] Shaq was definitely in a movie called Kazaam. I swear I saw that movie. I 100%, I swear I saw. 

Cat Alvarado: [00:25:48] Shaq, Kazaam. Or was it Sinbad? Shazam! That's the. 

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:25:51] Oh. Yeah, Sinbad. Sinbad one.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:25:53] But no That's that's what I agree.

Cat Alvarado: [00:25:54] Yeah,

Dwayne Perkins: [00:25:55] That that that didn't happen.

Cat Alvarado: [00:25:56] But Shaq was in something called Kazam.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:25:57] He was. 

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:25:58] Kazaam. No, but yeah. Sinbad. Sinbad Sinbad.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:26:00] On this timeline, Shaq was in Kazaam.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:26:02] Yeah, but Sinbad,

Dwayne Perkins: [00:26:03] We we definitely share the other timeline where Sinbad was in. 

Cat Alvarado: [00:26:06] Shazam!

Dwayne Perkins: [00:26:07] Shazam! Yes,

Cat Alvarado: [00:26:08] I agree,

Dwayne Perkins: [00:26:08] Yes, I remember. 

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:26:10] I think they are both swingers and it's the Mandela effect.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:26:14] My theory is actually that this was Airbnb's first Airbnb experience. It was like a place that was pretending to be from like the 1800s and that like they had a host and all these people that are all part of the the game, like the the Airbnb experience.

Jonesy: [00:26:29] Yeah.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:26:30] And they just didn't realize that they were part of this whole thing because it was kind of early. Right? They were early adopters. And and then by the time they came back, they closed.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:26:39] Okay. So I was going to say I'm going to go with my other theory. So basically it was like a pop up hotel.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:26:44] Yes. Yeah. But Airbnb.

Jonesy: [00:26:46] Airbnb.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:26:46] Yeah.

Jonesy: [00:26:46] How do you explain the price Airbnb is not known for?

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:26:49] Well they weren't they weren't. 

Dwayne Perkins: [00:26:50] Promotional.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:26:51] Yeah. Promotional.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:26:52] Yes.

Jonesy: [00:26:53] Okay. Got it, got it.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:26:54] And what they didn't realize there was a cleaning fee. Yeah. It was like $100 cleaning fee. So I made up all the difference.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:27:03] Well, it's kind of hard for it to be like hallucinations, because I don't. I don't really believe in group hallucinations, you know?

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:27:10] Well, how do you explain MAGA, then? Oh.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:27:14] That's not hallucination. That's, uh,

Cat Alvarado: [00:27:15] A cult.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:27:17] Yeah. Hypnotic. Hypnotic. Hypnotizing. Right.

Jonesy: [00:27:21] Hypnagogia. I appreciate the joke. That was good.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:27:23] So we have a mandela effect?

Cat Alvarado: [00:27:26] Yes.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:27:26] Airbnb, right?

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:27:27] Yeah.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:27:28] I guess I'll go with. They didn't go back in time, right. But they did stumble upon sort of an ethereal ghost kind of situation. So they were in the same time, but they just stumbled upon a haunting. But it's like on a massive level. That's why they experienced all of that. And so when they went back, because these ghosts probably are affiliated with the circus, it's a traveling ghost town.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:27:50] Wow.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:27:50] So that's why they couldn't find it when they went back.

Cat Alvarado: [00:27:53] Oh, I like. 

Jonesy: [00:27:54] Traveling ghost town.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:27:54] Yes,

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:27:55] That's a good That's a good movie. We should write that. All right.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:27:57] Yeah, right.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:27:58] Jonesy, what about you?

Jonesy: [00:27:59] Well, as you know, the American government experimented with dosing citizens with acid without them knowing.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:28:07] That's true.

Jonesy: [00:28:08] So why wouldn't the French government do that? You know, they were a little late to the scene, but, you know, maybe it took a while for the acid to travel around to the various parts of the world. And so, you know, perhaps they dosed these because, you know, like you, I believe in hallucinations, but a group hallucination.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:28:25] Right, right.

Jonesy: [00:28:26] We all have to be on board, I think, with the same. If you give a group the same chemical, though, they can all have a hallucination.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:28:33] Yeah.

Jonesy: [00:28:33] The only kink I can't work out in this theory is like how it lasted so long. Because, you know. But maybe, I don't know, maybe they have some really strong. Maybe the government could get the good shit.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:28:42] Right, right.

Jonesy: [00:28:43] That lasts more than 24 hours.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:28:46] How do you think they got the drugs into them? Because maybe they were at a diner.

Jonesy: [00:28:49] Simple they're French. They all had to stick it in their cappuccino. You know, just like their French and their wine. And they go in the wine. Eventually they're going to drink some wine. Their French. 

Cat Alvarado: [00:28:58] Cheese.

Jonesy: [00:28:58] Put it in the wine.

Cat Alvarado: [00:28:59] It's French cheese. That's why I. 

Jonesy: [00:29:00] Put it in the cheese.

Cat Alvarado: [00:29:02] Yeah,

Jonesy: [00:29:03] Yeah,

Dwayne Perkins: [00:29:03] Yeah.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:29:04] Well, that would explain why they're not. When they do the hypnosis, it doesn't come back.

Jonesy: [00:29:08] It doesn't come back.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:29:08] Pictures didn't exist because.

Jonesy: [00:29:11] The pictures didn't exist.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:29:12] Because there were no such thing. 

Cat Alvarado: [00:29:13] They were never even Taken.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:29:14] They were never taken.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:29:14] Right, right.

Jonesy: [00:29:15] Yeah. They're just tripping balls. It's just like an extended tripping balls group trip.

Cat Alvarado: [00:29:19] What if it was, like, black mold? Like, there was, like, hallucinogenic mold in the rafters.

Jonesy: [00:29:25] Well, that's what that's what LSD really is made of.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:29:28] At the hotel. So they were just at a Holiday Inn with mold.

Jonesy: [00:29:31] Oh, you're saying mold? Oh.

Cat Alvarado: [00:29:33] Yeah.

Jonesy: [00:29:34] Just like a motel six has mold, and you're you're breathing it in. Yeah.

Cat Alvarado: [00:29:38] And so then you think that everybody is from 1825 and you're just like,

Jonesy: [00:29:43] Wow,

Cat Alvarado: [00:29:44] Black mold.

Jonesy: [00:29:44] Hey, this could be a good one. We should party in a mold house. I mean, is that a thing? Yo, guys, come over to party. Do I need to bring anything? Like drugs? No, no, we got it. It's. It's on the walls.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:29:55] It's on the walls.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:29:57] So. 

Jonesy: [00:29:57] Come as you are.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:29:58] So if you went to a party at a mold house. But then one person kind of was a rat, and he told on you he'd be the mole at the mole party.

Jonesy: [00:30:08] I can see that coming. Yeah. Mole at the mole house.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:30:13] Right.

Jonesy: [00:30:14] All right. We got no moles. Just mold.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:30:16] What's crazy about these theories is that which is crazier that there's a time slip, or that there were, like, tripping on something?

Dwayne Perkins: [00:30:21] I mean, both time's a little crazy, but.

Cat Alvarado: [00:30:24] More unrealistic.

Jonesy: [00:30:25] To me. The time slip seems truly unbelievable. Because given the time that you could slip into the chances of you just slipping 30 years, you know when they take that map of the length of the Earth, how long it's been here, how long time has been in the earth? And you could extrapolate that to the, you know, the universe is 18 billion years or whatever. Whatever they say that it is, is 18 billion, 14 billion years old, something like that. So the timelines here, the humans are like so far, and we're just the tiniest little sliver of time that we're taking up. If we time slipped, like the chances of us like slipping, like so close to our actual timeline that we're living in is just mathematically impossible. You would you would definitely slip into at least a million years.

Cat Alvarado: [00:31:08] Unless. Unless it. Takes, like a certain amount of energy to go a certain like like it takes like more activation energy for the time. Travel. The further back you have to go, the more intentional it's got to be. And like it takes more effort, but just a little bit of time would take less effort. You're not traveling as far,

Dwayne Perkins: [00:31:25] I see, I see, I like that.

Cat Alvarado: [00:31:26] Because I was reading about time travel and there was there has only been one case where the guy time traveled because technically, because of the theory of relativity and the speed of light, if you go fast enough, like in space, you will time travel like you will go. 

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:31:40] String theory. String theory.

Jonesy: [00:31:41] I don't think a guy is time travel.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:31:43] He did. He's saying like a second.

Cat Alvarado: [00:31:44] It was like one second.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:31:45] Yeah,

Jonesy: [00:31:46] Really?

Cat Alvarado: [00:31:46] That's it. I mean, and it took that much energy.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:31:49] Well, string theory is that like, you know, like the time is like a circle that, like, time is not a straight line,

Dwayne Perkins: [00:31:54] But it's like interstellar. When he came back, he was like younger than his daughter or something like that, you know what I mean? But but I thought you were going to say so. I like what you're saying. It takes a tremendous amount of energy to go back. That's why we only go back a little bit. That answers that question. The other thing is, maybe we don't go back that far is because it only goes back up until the point where people started testing, splitting the atom and started playing with tremendous amounts of energy.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:32:20] I mean, people thought the world's going to end with the CERN. I remember when they did the whole yeah, you know what I'm talking about with CERN.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:32:26] Was that when they got the God particle, or.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:32:29] There are theories out there that the world ended at that point.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:32:31] Right, right.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:32:32] Like all this is just extra stuff. I was gonna say, though, is that I think a lot of the time slips are powerful moments that are kind of, like, almost like, etched in, like, history. Like the the Marie Antoinette thing. It's like that was like, she's like walking around about to get killed. And so it's like a very, almost like a ghost, right where there's like, there's like a, like a.

Jonesy: [00:32:53] Trauma attached to it or something. Significance.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:32:56] Yeah. Like, cause a lot of times they're that. Not always. I mean, in this case, they're just going to fucking hotel. So I don't, I don't know, kind of traumas there. But but sometimes like in that case, it was very like. It was very. She's like, she's like a victim in the Palace of Versailles. Versailles and or going to be a victim soon.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:33:10] I mean, maybe there was like a, like a World War two, like it was a hotel and it got, like, bombed or something like that.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:33:15] Yeah, right.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:33:16] That's true. And and it could be lying too. We never I mean.

Jonesy: [00:33:22] Yeah.

Cat Alvarado: [00:33:22] Nobody's theory.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:33:23] Right?

Jonesy: [00:33:24] I didn't see any footnotes to this story or, like, outside sources.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:33:29] I mean, the problem with lying, though, is like, could you get four people to do it, though?

Dwayne Perkins: [00:33:33] Yeah. And the amount of attention would not be worth it at all.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:33:37] It wouldn't be worth it, right?

Dwayne Perkins: [00:33:38] Not not at all.

Cat Alvarado: [00:33:39] Because you're not famous for anything you did.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:33:41] There's no reason to keep one of them from saying something. I mean, at least with, like, alien stuff or whatever, you at least be like, well, if I, if you say something, we'll kill you or something. Like here, it's like, well, why don't you say something? Like just say something like. That's also the D.B. Cooper issue. Was that, like, at the deathbed? Why couldn't you just say I'm D.B. Cooper and then prove it? Like. Like, why hasn't that happened? You know, unless you just died that night.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:34:01] So at this point in the show, it's time for us to pick the unofficial official story, one that will answer the question once and for all. So which story do we want to go with today?

Cat Alvarado: [00:34:11] We're voting.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:34:11] Yeah, I like the black mold theory, actually. I know that.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:34:14] Is that a theory?

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:34:15] That's not an official theory.

Cat Alvarado: [00:34:18] That was a hybrid theory.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:34:19] That was a hybrid theory.

Jonesy: [00:34:21] You like the black mold theory? I got the speakeasy I could take you to.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:34:26] So that. That theory is they went to a hotel with black mold.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:34:29] And they just tripped out

Dwayne Perkins: [00:34:31] And they tripped out. So it wasn't a government trip out. It was a black mold.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:34:33] And it wasn't like, intentional. They just kind of.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:34:36] Right.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:34:36] Stayed somewhere. They tripped out.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:34:38] How do you explain the the cobblestone streets and the circus thing or they just sort of.

Cat Alvarado: [00:34:44] They're could've just been cobblestone streets.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:34:46] Yeah.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:34:46] And they could have been a circus.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:34:48] Yeah, it could have.

Jonesy: [00:34:49] There's still cobblestone streets.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:34:50] Yeah. And they're just tripping out and they're like, oh, look at this. It has no pillow. And there's like a pillow, like five feet from where they're.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:34:59] They're like, there was no pillows, but we ate a giant marshmallow and it was really tasty.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:35:05] And there's no windows because they hit it with their head. They're like, yeah.

Jonesy: [00:35:10] I like the I like the Airbnb pop up theory. I think it's pretty cool. Very creative.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:35:14] I like that one. I like it's tough. I like the black mold. But I'm going to go with the traveling ghost town. Yeah, mine.

Jonesy: [00:35:22] Yeah. The traveling poltergeist.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:35:24] Right, right.

Jonesy: [00:35:25] Yeah.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:35:25] Cat.

Cat Alvarado: [00:35:26] Mhm. Gosh, this is a tough one. There's a lot because I, I'm into the poltergeist one. I am a ghost person. I am not a ghost but I, I'm into ghosts.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:35:35] You have ghosts.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:35:36] You have run in with them.

Cat Alvarado: [00:35:36] Have them. I will be one one day.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:35:38] Yeah.

Cat Alvarado: [00:35:39] But I also like the black mold. I'm in between. Mhm.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:35:43] Just go with the black mold.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:35:44] Yeah. Because that would that would settle it because then otherwise we'd have a tie I think.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:35:47] Yeah.

Cat Alvarado: [00:35:48] Let's go with black mold.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:35:49] Okay.

Cat Alvarado: [00:35:49] Black mold. Does anyone else need to vote. Did we all vote?

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:35:52] Joney did the Airbnb? You did the.

Cat Alvarado: [00:35:53] Yeah.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:35:53] Dwayne did the poltergeist.

Jonesy: [00:35:54] You can't have a tie.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:35:56] Well, we could have a tie, but then we have to figure out. I mean, it has to only be one.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:35:59] We have to figure out what really maybe happens.

Cat Alvarado: [00:36:01] We figured it out.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:36:02] I think it's a black mold.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:36:04] Right, right. Well, there you go. Black mold is a shared group. Black mold experience. And that's the official story. We'll take another break, and when we return, we'll talk about time travel. Okay. If you could go back or I guess, forward to any time period, when would you go and why?

Cat Alvarado: [00:36:22] All right. I have two answers. Number one, I would go.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:36:25] Not your boyfriend or ex-boyfriend, right?

Cat Alvarado: [00:36:27] Yeah. I wasn't going to say that.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:36:29] Okay, good. Okay, good.

Cat Alvarado: [00:36:29] Okay.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:36:31] Because I won't say something Asian or Japanese.

Cat Alvarado: [00:36:33] Okay. But maybe at the end we can come back and say the one. Okay. But. Okay. My non boyfriend related answer is I want to go to the early 2000 or late 90s and buy property in my name and then come back. Still have it. And now I have a house. That's the only way I'll have a house. 

Dwayne Perkins: [00:36:52] That's pretty solid. Yeah,

Cat Alvarado: [00:36:53] Besides getting super rich

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:36:53] Super cheap back then.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:36:55] Generational wealth. Yeah.

Cat Alvarado: [00:36:57] That's that's my number one task. Like, there's all kinds of things that would be really interesting to do, but.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:37:01] Or you could just invest in like Facebook or something or, or like Microsoft or Apple.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:37:05] That's true too. Yeah.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:37:06] And then by the time you'd be like or Amazon.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:37:09] Absolutely.

Cat Alvarado: [00:37:09] Oh I would do that. I would go to 2000, buy a house, invest in Amazon and Google.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:37:16] And then you'd be super rich.

Cat Alvarado: [00:37:17] That's right.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:37:18] Yeah. Or even Tesla right.

Cat Alvarado: [00:37:19] Well there you go. So my my approach to this time travel is the best one.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:37:25] And what was the other one? You said there were two.

Cat Alvarado: [00:37:26] Oh. So this guy I'm dating.

Jonesy: [00:37:31] Yeah,

Cat Alvarado: [00:37:32] This guy I'm dating currently doesn't want to. He's not ready for a relationship. But there was a time where he was so.

Jonesy: [00:37:38] Oh, you want to go back in time when he was. 

Dwayne Perkins: [00:37:40] Just, like, three weeks ago?

Cat Alvarado: [00:37:42] Like, there were, like, two long term relationships I would pop up, like, in between them, and then I'd be like, boom, you've been bumped. And then that I would be that one.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:37:52] Okay.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:37:52] Nice, nice.

Cat Alvarado: [00:37:54] It's a stupid one. But that's why I gave you a smart one also.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:37:57] Okay.

Jonesy: [00:37:57] I would like to go back to a time in America when you could safely hitchhike.

Cat Alvarado: [00:38:03] Until you could safely say the n word now.

Jonesy: [00:38:06] No. You cannot. No. You cannot. You cannot.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:38:09] When do you think that is? Like. 

Jonesy: [00:38:11] The 40s.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:38:12] 40s?

Jonesy: [00:38:12] 50s?

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:38:13] Yeah. Assuming you're white.

Cat Alvarado: [00:38:14] I don't think you could ever safely hitchhike.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:38:16] You could before.

Jonesy: [00:38:17] No. I mean, you ever.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:38:18] You're a white dude.

Jonesy: [00:38:19] Did you read On the Road by Jack Kerouac? This is a big hitchhiking adventure, man. This guy hitchhiked all over the place, then hitchhiked all the way down to Mexico City. Back then, you could get around.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:38:27] Well, even in the 70s.

Jonesy: [00:38:28] It's like a really nice time. A safe time for the most part. You could kind of just. People trusted each other a little bit more. I think. 

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:38:35] If you're white as well.

Jonesy: [00:38:36] Yeah, there's there's a caveat to this. Yeah.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:38:39] White. Straight.

Jonesy: [00:38:39] Yeah.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:38:40] Man.

Jonesy: [00:38:41] But just imagine you can't you know, no one can. No one would dare do that now. I mean, someone would have to be wrong with you to do that.

Cat Alvarado: [00:38:48] Mhm. That is true.

Jonesy: [00:38:50] Yeah. I'd like to hitchhike across the, across the whole country. I think that would be exciting. But I can't do that now.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:38:55] You could.

Jonesy: [00:38:56] I could, maybe I'd try and make a documentary about it on day 30. I still haven't left Jersey.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:39:04] Or you get picked up and you never seen again.

Jonesy: [00:39:06] You never seen me again. Yeah. The kind of people that would pick you up now are like, you know, they're not normal, right?

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:39:13] I picked I picked somebody up from Death Valley once.

Jonesy: [00:39:15] You did?

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:39:15] Yeah. I was, uh, there was two people, though. That's why I felt more comfortable as a man and a woman.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:39:20] Two people. They could overpower you.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:39:21] Well.

Jonesy: [00:39:22] They could overpower you.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:39:24] One of my friends and my wife was in the car, and it was like. And I. The only other reason I picked him up was because I saw their car broken down like, two miles down the road. And so I assumed. 

Cat Alvarado: [00:39:33] It was also Death Valley.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:39:34] Yeah,

Cat Alvarado: [00:39:35] They're gonna die.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:39:35] And I assumed it was the same people because they were like, walking in that direction. And I was like, these people are gonna die if they keep walking like. 

Jonesy: [00:39:40] Death Valley. Yeah,

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:39:41] We pulled over and they're like, hey, you know, blah, blah, blah. We just need a ride. And I was like, yeah, we're like, we're just leaving, going through. And so we'll drop you off at a gas station. Yeah, I was worried though. I was a little bit worried.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:39:53] I've actually been picked up like helped twice. One in South, once in South Africa. But a guy was like, oh, I saw you at the show. And then he gave me a ride. I didn't know this guy from Adam, a guy in England, this Indian dude. I was at the wrong place. He drove me in Chicago. Some dudes drove us to this. We're looking for this chicken spot late at night, and these guys drove us. So I've done this a few times. And once I drove, I drove a lady home to the jungle. You know, the jungle. Like where? Um.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:40:23] Is that a Euphemism for the forrest.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:40:24] No, no. It's it's it's south central. South central. It's where, it's where. Um, Denzel did the scene. King Kong ain't got nothing on me. It's a real place. South central. It's not. It doesn't look that bad to me. But it's supposed to be, you know? Okay, back in the day.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:40:38] I believe it's called South LA now.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:40:40] All right. Maybe.

Jonesy: [00:40:41] Yeah. That's right. So it's called the Jungle Adjacent.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:40:43] Yeah. There's a lady in Montrose and she bought a big lamp and she needed help. And I was like, okay. And I took it back to the jungle. And then her son was like, hey, thank you cuz. No he wasn't. He wasn't. But he thanked me. He did. He said thank you. He did thank me. And so that was kind of crazy. And then, um, once I took a lady, this lady at the Laugh Factory, she needed a ride. But I had another comic with me, and I told him, sit in the back, and I gave him precise instructions. If she does something crazy, punch her in the face. So. 

Jonesy: [00:41:11] That was the instructions. That was the. That was the hitchhiker?

Dwayne Perkins: [00:41:15] Yeah.

Jonesy: [00:41:15] Planned.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:41:16] Well, actually, now that I think about it, it's kind of like Uber. I mean, that's kind of like hitchhiking in a way.

Jonesy: [00:41:20] I guess it kind of is,

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:41:21] Like stranger picks you up.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:41:23] Yeah.

Jonesy: [00:41:23] Yeah.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:41:24] Only thing is Uber, there's some sort of record of who this guy is.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:41:27] Yeah, but people still get murdered.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:41:28] Yeah.

Cat Alvarado: [00:41:28] You know what I would love to do is go back in time. Like, if I had a time machine, I'd have, like, a list of, like, all the major serial killers and where to find them at exactly what time they did their first murder. And I would go and I'd be like, Dexter. And I'd take him out one by one with a sniper rifle. 

Dwayne Perkins: [00:41:42] I Like that.

Jonesy: [00:41:43] You would do that?

Cat Alvarado: [00:41:44] Yeah.

Jonesy: [00:41:44] That's pretty sweet. How nice of you to give up your your one of your few time travel opportunities to save humanity.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:41:52] If I did that. I would take him out, but I would just poison him.

Cat Alvarado: [00:41:55] I mean, it wouldn't be to save humanity. It'd be so that I could do some fun. Cool. Oh, I just want to kill a bunch of.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:42:01] Well, then. Why don't you just kill Hitler, then?

Jonesy: [00:42:02] Yeah.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:42:03] You could kill baby. Hitler,

Jonesy: [00:42:04] Baby Hitler. That's what everybody says.

Cat Alvarado: [00:42:05] Him too. 

Dwayne Perkins: [00:42:05] Baby. Hitler.

Jonesy: [00:42:06] I know,

Dwayne Perkins: [00:42:07] Instead of.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:42:07] Or just World War one. Hitler won world. World War one. Hitler.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:42:10] World War one. Hitler.

Jonesy: [00:42:11] Yeah. I would just go back five days and save those avocados I opened too early.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:42:15] Yeah. That's right.

Jonesy: [00:42:17] Man, those were good. Top shelf avocados. What a waste. 

Dwayne Perkins: [00:42:22] This is. This is tough, man. This is, uh. This is not easy. There's so many options. I would go back maybe to one. I'd go back to, like, some kind of a Cotton Club jazz blues era, you know what I mean? And just, um, just say, you know, you guys are doing a good thing. You know what I mean? Just just just to go check it out.

Jonesy: [00:42:40] Thanks. Strange man from the future.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:42:41] Yeah,

Dwayne Perkins: [00:42:42] He told us he gave us a thumbs up and then bounced.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:42:46] Wait, What would you do? Like an old time accent or would you just.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:42:49] Um, no, I think. I don't know. I feel like, uh, I'm saying this is New York, right? So I could either go, like, lay it on me, lay it on me, black. Come on. Blood. You know. Yeah. I could hit him with that. Or get him with you.

Jonesy: [00:43:02] Dig? You dig, you dig everything you dig, I dig.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:43:04] Go, I can go like Brooklyn, like East Side boys. Hey, don't be a wise guy. Hey, look at this guy. Oh, yeah. You guys are doing a good job down here because I don't know, I don't know, but um,

Jonesy: [00:43:13] You gotta say cats. Everybody was a cat. So these cats.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:43:16] Go hang out with Galileo, maybe, and be like,

Jonesy: [00:43:18] Yeah.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:43:19] Also,

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:43:19] I. Think that's the second episode you talked about Galileo.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:43:21] Yeah. You did some good things, man. You know.

Jonesy: [00:43:24] Would you look into his telescope?

Dwayne Perkins: [00:43:25] Yeah, I would tell him, like the submarine. I think he. 

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:43:28] Wait, Is that a euphemism?

Cat Alvarado: [00:43:29] It sounded. It sounded like a euphemism.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:43:32] Yeah. In that case, no. Would you pitch it like that? But actually, you know what I would do, too? Here's what I would do as well. I'd go back and not kill Hitler, but buy his art.

Jonesy: [00:43:45] Hey, now you're talking.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:43:47] And by a lot of it, I'm like, yeah, this is your this this is your path.

Jonesy: [00:43:53] Mhm.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:43:53] Not any other path.

Jonesy: [00:43:55] That might be all it takes. Just a little bit of encouragement in that area.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:43:58] And be like you know what. Follow your dreams. This one. This dream, not the other dream.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:44:04] You should probably say you're you're Jewish too then.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:44:06] Right? But they say he was Jewish. They say. Right.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:44:09] Yeah,

Dwayne Perkins: [00:44:09] But I was certainly, um. I would buy some of his art. Like. Yeah, as much of it as I could afford, actually.

Jonesy: [00:44:17] Like, we love your art so much. We're going to open a museum right now, but I've only been painting for two years. Oh, Museum right now. Next week.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:44:24] Right.

Jonesy: [00:44:24] Oh,

Dwayne Perkins: [00:44:25] Right.

Jonesy: [00:44:25] Saving humanity without killing anybody?

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:44:27] Yeah,

Jonesy: [00:44:27] That's pretty creative.

Cat Alvarado: [00:44:28] Yeah, way to one up all of us.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:44:30] I'm sorry.

Jonesy: [00:44:32] Nobody got to die with a sniper rifle, cat. Nobody got to die.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:44:36] So. Okay, because you did. The boyfriend one.

Jonesy: [00:44:38] Someone go in the future?

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:44:39] Well, actually, I'll do one in the future then. But I'm going to do an Asian one because you did the boyfriend one, so I have to do the another one. Uh,

Cat Alvarado: [00:44:45] You. Set me up just so that you could.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:44:46] I wasn't going to do it, but then I thought about it, and I was like, oh, I just. Every episode we have to talk about Asians or Japanese. Right. Because obviously.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:44:52] Usually aliens. We we made it pretty far this time. Yeah. Uh.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:44:56] So what people don't know about Imperial Japan and like, 30s and 40s was they were the only non-European country that was, like, acting like a European country. Right. They were like they were colonizing. They're taking over places. And there was a time in like the 30s when non-Western, non-European countries were looking at Japan and saying, fuck, they're finally like, somebody else is finally playing this game, the Europeans game. And there was a time when there were people in the Japanese like leadership that was talking about creating a pan-Asian thing, where they would go to each of the countries and, like, free them from European colonization.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:45:37] Right. Like with Vietnam colonizers.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:45:39] Yeah. Like Vietnam and China and go and be like kind of create this pan-Asian movement. Obviously they didn't go that way and they went like the other way and just started acting even more like Europeans aren't killing people and raping and doing all that terrible things. But I would go to that meeting and be like, no, no, no, it's going to be terrible for you. Let me talk to you about Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:45:57] And interesting. That's pretty good.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:45:58] And be like, I like that. Maybe we could create this pan-Asian movement and free and then move like you can move to Africa and Latin America and everywhere else.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:46:07] The other alternative is, if you're going to do it after you bomb Pearl Harbor, keep going because they say if they would have kept bombing, they could have taken up. They could have. Like they would have conquered us all the way to Chicago.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:46:20] They would have. They would have lost.

Jonesy: [00:46:21] Really?

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:46:22] No.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:46:22] Yeah, we weren't Prepared, but they were like, well, the surprise is over. Sometimes the surprises that you do it again, I'm not saying they should. I'm glad that didn't happen.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:46:30] No, they Didn't have enough.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:46:31] Right, right, right.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:46:32] They couldn't have done that. And what they should have done in Pearl Harbor was there was actually going to be a third wave, but they pulled it back because by then the Americans were already sending like anti-aircraft stuff in the air, and they had aircrafts in the air. And the amount of losses that they anticipated was not even close to what they actually. So they pulled back. The admiral of the fleet actually pulled everybody back.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:46:52] Oh, so they explained even with that attack, they experienced more losses than they thought they would.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:46:56] No, they they less. But then they pulled back early instead of having the third wave, which would have completely destroyed the Pacific Fleet for longer, I mean, they would have come back. I mean, America we would have come back, but it would have just taken longer.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:47:08] Right. You see. He said, we everyone.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:47:10] Yeah.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:47:11] And speaking about America, he said, we. 

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:47:14] Okay. But the one, the one going forward I'll do one going forward is that I would love to see my son play a major League baseball.

Jonesy: [00:47:22] Oh that's perfect.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:47:23] I would love to be in the. I want to be in the, uh. Yeah. I want to be in the stadium watching it. And just that feeling would be really, really amazing.

Jonesy: [00:47:31] You have it. Don't rush it.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:47:32] Yeah, but. That would be a great kind of place to be. I think. 

Dwayne Perkins: [00:47:35] Hot dogs would be. How much?

Cat Alvarado: [00:47:37] $70.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:47:38] I shudder to think that would be pretty dope.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:47:41] Well, I should get free hot dogs at that point.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:47:43] Yeah, you would think. Right?

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:47:43] Yeah, because I think that they give it to the families. And I've already talked to my son about a per diem.

Jonesy: [00:47:48] You get a per diem.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:47:49] Well, he's gonna give me a per diem.

Jonesy: [00:47:50] He should.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:47:50] And he said, what's a per diem, daddy? And I said, don't worry about it.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:47:53] Actually, you should give it. Depending on how old he is. You should give him a per diem. Per diem so that the rest is getting invested or saved.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:48:00] No, no, he's going to pay because he's Major League Baseball player. So he's going to pay me to live my life that I want.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:48:05] Right. But I'm saying is that he should also live on a fixed income and anything over that is investing and saving.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:48:13] I'm not worried about him. I'm worried about me.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:48:15] But both.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:48:15] But then I'm gonna have, like, 3 20 year old girlfriends.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:48:18] Oh, nice.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:48:18] Yeah.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:48:19] Nice. Nice.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:48:20] The ESPN shot of the of me would be like 3 20 year olds.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:48:24] At that Point. You won't even you won't even have to pop Viagra. You can just go to like get a packet, insert it into your arm.

Jonesy: [00:48:30] Yeah. What'll it be then.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:48:31] It'll be a time release thing.

Jonesy: [00:48:32] Yeah, yeah.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:48:36] Cat's like, oh, wow, that's a lot of information.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:48:38] This went left.

Cat Alvarado: [00:48:40] I'm gonna I'm gonna time travel to the future of this conversation being over. Okay.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:48:49] Well, thank you Jonesy for coming on with us. Please tell us where people can follow you and your podcast.

Jonesy: [00:48:54] Uh, you Can listen to my podcast on any podcast player. It's called weird AF news. Just do a search for weird AF news and I'm on Instagram at Funny Jones.

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Cat Alvarado: [00:49:48] Please join us next month when we ask the question, were the deaths at Travis Scott's Astroworld festival a blood sacrifice?

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:49:57] Yes.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:49:57] Oh, wow. That's that's this is pretty heavy. I might skip this episode.

Cat Alvarado: [00:50:03] If they were, it didn't work.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:50:04] He was already famous. He's less famous anyway we'll talk about it.

Cat Alvarado: [00:50:07] Yeah, right.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:50:08] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:50:08] I mean, is he is he less famous now?

Dwayne Perkins: [00:50:10] I feel like he had a big he had a big hit album out and then. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I'm not saying he's less famous, but he's not more famous. So what was it all for?

Cat Alvarado: [00:50:20] The blood. He didn't. Blood sacrifice enough people? Duh.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:50:23] Yeah.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:50:24] Perhaps. Perhaps. Yes.

Koji Steven Sakai: [00:50:27] All right. Thank you guys. Bye. 

Cat Alvarado: [00:50:29] Bye.

Dwayne Perkins: [00:50:29] See ya.